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=="The Tale of Woe" - Main Plot Title== | =="The Tale of Woe" - Main Plot Title== | ||
I think we can presume that the plot is indeed called 'The Tale of Woe', and the name does not just refer to the story the gypsy tells, based on the name of the new plot board and how the comic doesn't just show this story, but intersperses it with Gilly's travels... --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 10:22, 7 Oct 2006 (CDT) | I think we can presume that the plot is indeed called 'The Tale of Woe', and the name does not just refer to the story the gypsy tells, based on the name of the new plot board and how the comic doesn't just show this story, but intersperses it with Gilly's travels... --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 10:22, 7 Oct 2006 (CDT) | ||
:That's what i thought as well, which is why i created it as such. If this should change in the future, it can always be editted. And thank you for the heads up on the title of the new plot board. will edit the Neoboard article accordingly. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 10:25, 7 Oct 2006 (CDT) | :That's what i thought as well, which is why i created it as such. If this should change in the future, it can always be editted. And thank you for the heads up on the title of the new plot board. will edit the Neoboard article accordingly. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 10:25, 7 Oct 2006 (CDT) | ||
==Images of the Plot== | ==Images of the Plot== | ||
The following is a list of images used in the plot. add to as needed for speculation of future archiving of images (place in order they appear in the plot). Note: The cave images and the item images are all separate (linking an image of a cave will give a blank cave room, with or without light)... | The following is a list of images used in the plot. add to as needed for speculation of future archiving of images (place in order they appear in the plot). Note: The cave images and the item images are all separate (linking an image of a cave will give a blank cave room, with or without light)... | ||
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*[http://images.neopets.com/halloween/hwp/neovia/burned_house_31b66f1a18.gif Burnt out house] | *[http://images.neopets.com/halloween/hwp/neovia/burned_house_31b66f1a18.gif Burnt out house] | ||
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*[http://images.neopets.com/halloween/hwp/chars/char_gypsy_b19b450376.gif Red Wocky gypsy talking] | *[http://images.neopets.com/halloween/hwp/chars/char_gypsy_b19b450376.gif Red Wocky gypsy talking] | ||
==plot opponents== | == plot opponents == | ||
Should there be information about the associated War opponnents? It seems reasonable. --[[User:69.61.170.209|69.61.170.209]] 19:48, 7 Nov 2006 (CST) | Should there be information about the associated War opponnents? It seems reasonable. --[[User:69.61.170.209|69.61.170.209]] 19:48, 7 Nov 2006 (CST) | ||
:Yes, there should and will be lists of the opponents in the plot, as there are in the other plot articles of the NeoDex...they just haven't been made yet. *sigh* --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 19:51, 7 Nov 2006 (CST) | :Yes, there should and will be lists of the opponents in the plot, as there are in the other plot articles of the NeoDex...they just haven't been made yet. *sigh* --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 19:51, 7 Nov 2006 (CST) | ||
==Journal Page Entries== | ==Journal Page Entries== | ||
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Don't know if all of the pages are needed to complete the plot, or if they are different, so i'm posting what i get here for now...--[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 23:11, 14 Nov 2006 (CST) | Don't know if all of the pages are needed to complete the plot, or if they are different, so i'm posting what i get here for now...--[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 23:11, 14 Nov 2006 (CST) | ||
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==The tale of Woe and other plots== | ==The tale of Woe and other plots== | ||
The Tale of Woe in similiar to other plots in many ways, e.g. Sophie behaves like [[Caylis]], the woods are like the temple of 1000 graves, Bruno accepts his destiny like the Nightsteed. I don't need to mention the angry Yurble. By the way, Krawley refers to [[Wikipedia:Aleister Crowley|Aleister Crowley]]. Sadly, my English is to bad to formulate such things properly, could please somebody add the info to the article in proper English?--[[User:Himmelsdemon|Demon]] 04:07, 5 Jan 2007 (CST) | The Tale of Woe in similiar to other plots in many ways, e.g. Sophie behaves like [[Caylis]], the woods are like the temple of 1000 graves, Bruno accepts his destiny like the Nightsteed. I don't need to mention the angry Yurble. By the way, Krawley refers to [[Wikipedia:Aleister Crowley|Aleister Crowley]]. Sadly, my English is to bad to formulate such things properly, could please somebody add the info to the article in proper English?--[[User:Himmelsdemon|Demon]] 04:07, 5 Jan 2007 (CST) | ||
:Lots of plots or stories for that matter have very similar characters, so much that many of them have become stereo typed. But you are right, there are plot elements in The Tale of Woe which have been shared before, especially the ending, which is almost word for word. This and other information on how people viewed the plot could be placed in a ''Reception'' section (which the current ''quest inventory'' would be part of). | :Lots of plots or stories for that matter have very similar characters, so much that many of them have become stereo typed. But you are right, there are plot elements in The Tale of Woe which have been shared before, especially the ending, which is almost word for word. This and other information on how people viewed the plot could be placed in a ''Reception'' section (which the current ''quest inventory'' would be part of). | ||
:Also, how is it that Mr. Krawley refers to Aleister Crowley? Is it just by the last name "Crowley" that you say this? ''*ponders the idea*'' --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 09:19, 5 Jan 2007 (CST) | :Also, how is it that Mr. Krawley refers to Aleister Crowley? Is it just by the last name "Crowley" that you say this? ''*ponders the idea*'' --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 09:19, 5 Jan 2007 (CST) | ||
A hedon, mystic, occultist, drug experimenter... Yeah, I'd say there is a fair chance of him beings something of an inspiration to Mr Krawley's character... --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 10:29, 5 Jan 2007 (CST) | A hedon, mystic, occultist, drug experimenter... Yeah, I'd say there is a fair chance of him beings something of an inspiration to Mr Krawley's character... --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 10:29, 5 Jan 2007 (CST) | ||
:Yes. (The idea is not mine, it was suggested by one of our bureaucrats.) And the Mr. Alexander might also be inspired by the born name of Aleister Crowley. But I'm not sure about that one.--[[User:Himmelsdemon|Demon]] | :Yes. (The idea is not mine, it was suggested by one of our bureaucrats.) And the Mr. Alexander might also be inspired by the born name of Aleister Crowley. But I'm not sure about that one.--[[User:Himmelsdemon|Demon]] | ||
::This is beginning to make more sense the more i think of it now. Thank you for bringing this to mind. Dr. Edward Alexander, aka the Pink Elephante gypsy, aka Mr. Krawley (Alexander Krawley = Aleister Crowley). :) in either case, this info isn't for "The Tale of Woe" article, but "Mr. Krawley", as it has to do with his character (and while on that note, it's important to make mention of his relation to [[Wikipedia:Diablo (comics)|Diablo]], a Marvel Comics villain). To be done in due time. | ::This is beginning to make more sense the more i think of it now. Thank you for bringing this to mind. Dr. Edward Alexander, aka the Pink Elephante gypsy, aka Mr. Krawley (Alexander Krawley = Aleister Crowley). :) in either case, this info isn't for "The Tale of Woe" article, but "Mr. Krawley", as it has to do with his character (and while on that note, it's important to make mention of his relation to [[Wikipedia:Diablo (comics)|Diablo]], a Marvel Comics villain). To be done in due time. | ||
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== Separating the article == | == Separating the article == | ||
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Should this page be broken into smaller sections? For example, putting the plot solution in an extra article? --[[User:Himmelsdemon|Demon]] 09:35, 21 Apr 2007 (CDT | Should this page be broken into smaller sections? For example, putting the plot solution in an extra article?--[[User:Himmelsdemon|Demon]] 09:35, 21 Apr 2007 (CDT) | ||