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:::No fair making jokes. Didn't feel like smiling. :D Again, "Altador Cup 2006/2007" is a title '''I''' created for ease of use, which i believe was even before they called this plot "Altador Cup II". We can redirect to the properly titled articles as needed. If other users show complaints, we can always change it back. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 23:39, 13 Jun 2007 (UTC)
:::No fair making jokes. Didn't feel like smiling. :D Again, "Altador Cup 2006/2007" is a title '''I''' created for ease of use, which i believe was even before they called this plot "Altador Cup II". We can redirect to the properly titled articles as needed. If other users show complaints, we can always change it back. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 23:39, 13 Jun 2007 (UTC)
::The Cup is known as Altador Cup 2007 on the Jellyneo Forums. [http://www.jellyneofourms.net Here].--[[User:UBracter|UBracter]] 21:54, 2 Jul 2007 (UTC)
:::What users (you, me, and the people of the Jellyneo Forums) refer to a plot is different from what Neopets officially calls a plot. If the official title of plot is "Altador Cup II", then that is what the article will be named. Users may still refer to is as "Altador Cup 2007", but the official title remains. If TNT should discontinue the method in the following year (not "Altador Cup III"), then name changes can be made. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 17:41, 3 Jul 2007 (UTC)
::::Well I believe keeping it ''Altador Cup I'' and ''II'' is fine. However, don't you think that if the names are being changed, it is best to call the 2006 tournament something like: '''Y8 Altador Cup''' and then '''Y9 Altador Cup''' and '''Y10 Altador Cup''', in Neopia - here is no such thing as 2006, 2007, 2008 in Neopia etc. -- [[User:ForbiddenRoze]] 19:17, 17 Apr 2008 (GMT)
:::::I don't think many people use the year references of the Neopia. It tends to confuse a lot of people in terms of time....especially me. :S --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 12:29, 21 Apr 2008 (CDT)
::::::Which is exactly the reason why they are numbered. Thanks for changing it, whoever did it! --[[User:Freefalldreams|Freefalldreams]] 06:26, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


==Ranking system==
==Ranking system==
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http://images.neopets.com/altador/altadorcup/levels/levelshields100_1.gif '''''Level 1'''''
http://images.neopets.com/altador/altadorcup/levels/levelshields100_1.gif '''''Level 1'''''
*'''Yooyuball'''
*'''Yooyuball'''
**Goals Scored: a lot - 316
**Goals Scored: 172 - 278
**Number of Wins: 38 - 61
**Number of Wins: 38 - 55
**Number of Draws: 1
**Number of Draws: 1
**Number of Losses: 0
**Number of Losses: 0
*'''Slushie Slinger'''
*'''Slushie Slinger'''
**Games Played: 26 - 49
**Games Played: 26 - 43
*'''Make Some Noise'''
*'''Make Some Noise'''
**Games Played: 52 - 97
**Games Played: 52 - 90


if players are guaged by how well they play against other players and their contributions to the team vs. other users of the same team, then guaging this system will be next to impossible. :( *fingers crossed* --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 03:25, 17 Jun 2007 (UTC)
if players are guaged by how well they play against other players and their contributions to the team vs. other users of the same team, then guaging this system will be next to impossible. :( *fingers crossed* --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 03:25, 17 Jun 2007 (UTC)
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<blockquote>''Above that is currently unknown, although it is known there is a maximum of 20 ranks.''"</blockquote>
<blockquote>''Above that is currently unknown, although it is known there is a maximum of 20 ranks.''"</blockquote>
--[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 01:43, 24 Jun 2007 (UTC)
--[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 01:43, 24 Jun 2007 (UTC)
::This can show to be different. I am currently at Level 4 and I have less than 200 wins.--[[User:UBracter|UBracter]] 21:51, 2 Jul 2007 (UTC)
:::As stated, the plot isn't finished, and hopefully the scoring system will be explained soon enough. ;)


==Results by day==
==Results by day==
UBracter has recently edited out the results by day section, and i put them back in place, due to them being the best method to show how each team did on each day. How better to display it and what improvments to use is the purpose of this discussion. *is ready to hear ideas* --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 20:30, 27 Jun 2007 (UTC)
UBracter has recently edited out the results by day section, and i put them back in place, due to them being the best method to show how each team did on each day. How better to display it and what improvments to use is the purpose of this discussion. *is ready to hear ideas* --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 20:30, 27 Jun 2007 (UTC)
:I've been thinking - Which is more important: Result by day or result for each matchup? Anyway, this is a weird idea of mine if result by day is still required... Lets see if everybody can figure it out: [[User:SwordFire/AC_Result|Result chart]] --[[User:SwordFire|SwordFire]] 15:37, 29 Jun 2007 (UTC)
:It looks good, and i'm glad you put in the effort to make it. This allow the challenges to be viewed by each 8 matchups, allowing to show each part of the double round robin. Of course, i think it would be better to throw in Altador into the table, rather than have it be the match where the same team lines up. When that happens, just have the cross out symbol or something like other round robin tables do. I ''really'' do like this. If we can set it up just right (showing all teams, lining them up in a proper fasion, include the dates of matchups), it would be much better than what i currently have in the results section. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 01:13, 30 Jun 2007 (UTC)
::I edited it out because it would take up to much space. Plus, since it only has the rusults for the first two days, it is completely pointless. If it had the rusults for the rest of the days, then it would take up more space than the page itself. Plus, if you want the rusults by day, you could simply see the schudle. There, all the teams like ''this'', would be a team that won that match. The results by day section, in my point of view, is stupid. --[[User:UBracter|UBracter]] 18:43, 30 Jun 2007 (UTC)
:::Only the 1st 2 days are shown because those were the only tables created thus far. and the tables would scroll down, not ''across'', so you don't need to worry about it taking up too much space. and looking at the scedule, at the style it is right now, is "stupid", because it doesn't tell us who won the "Slushie Slinger" or "Make Some Noise" competitions, which we need. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 00:35, 1 Jul 2007 (UTC)
::I actually stopped right after creating the 6 June result table. There are two reasons: One, the Neodex is complaining about the size of the page. Two, implementing all the days in the same format will definitely drag the page far too long (who wants to scroll down 30+ pages for information? Ouch...)
::I've re-added Altador to the experimental table without breaking the line-up for each day. I've also extended the table just enough to fit two rounds of round-robin and still look logically correct for each day. The Neodex will still complain about the size, but at least the number of pages is reduced.
::The only problem is it's not easy to add and modify the data within the table, but once we added all the data, we do not need to worry about modifying it. --[[User:SwordFire|SwordFire]] 01:32, 1 Jul 2007 (UTC)
::But the scedule shows overall who won that coupling. --[[User:UBracter|UBracter]] 17:04, 2 Jul 2007 (UTC)
==Standings hierarchy==
I've removed the following section,
<blockquote>The standings on this list is just a guess. But it seems to be greatly similar to the scoring system TNT uses. Thus, this may not be the right caluation, but is very similar. A win is 2 points, a draw is 1 point, and a loss is 0. Yooyuball is double the points (win=4, draw=2, loss=0).</blockquote>
<blockquote>{| class=wikitable
|-
| Place
| Team
| Points
|-
| 1st
| Darigan Citadel
| 177pts
|-
| 2nd
| Roo Island
| 176pts
|-
| 3rd
| Krawk Island
| 168pts
|-
| 4th
| Shenkuu
| 167pts
|-
| ------
|-
| 5th
| Lost Desert
| 162pts
|-
| 6th
| Mystery Island
| 149pts
|-
| 7th
| Haunted Woods
| 134pts
|-
| 8th
| Maraqua
| 109pts
|-
| 9th
| Meridell
| 107pts
|-
| 10th
| Terror Mountain
| 74pts
|-
| 11th
| Brightvale
| 63pts
|-
| 12th
| Tyrannia
| 52pts
|-
| 13th
| Kiko Lake
| 47pts
|-
| 14th
| Altador
| 42pts
|-
| 15th
| Faerieland
| 27pts
|-
| 16th
| Virtupets
| 10pts
|}</blockquote>
as it seems to be entirely speculative... --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 20:08, 1 Jul 2007 (UTC)
:I put it there since it seems to be right. When TNT posted news of the top four after the first round of the double round robin was over, it matched what the formula I used said. [[User:UBracter|UBracter]] 17:01, 2 Jul 2007 (UTC)
::... o_o That doesn't mean it is correct, though. It is a guess, purely speculative - there are many different ways the figures can be manipulated to produce those four teams in that order... --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 18:46, 2 Jul 2007 (UTC)
I assume this data is part of this table, yes?
<blockquote>''The wining team is calutaed by wins and draws in that coupling. A win in Yooyuball is worth 4 points. A draw in Yooyuball is 2 points. A win in Slushie Slinger and Make Some Noise is worth 2 points. A draw in Slushie Slinger and Make Some Noise is worth 1 point. The team with the most points in that coupling won. If both teams have the same number of points, then it is a draw.''</blockquote>
If and when this data can be confirmed, it can be placed back on. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 02:10, 4 Jul 2007 (UTC)

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