WW37 -- Labyrinth of Legends

[malibu]

The little detail I mentioned before is something I'm not allowed to talk about: However, I am not basing this on something that he told me: Rather, I'm basing it on something that happened during one of the night posts..

How would you know whether the little details are relevant to Pardona if you're not allowed to speak about them, and isn't saying that something happened in the night scene that you're not allowed to talk about kinda defeating the purpose of not being able to talk about it?

Apologies if that was convoluted - but say you are telling the truth and you and Pardona have something in common that you can't talk about, it just looks like you've given Pardona information that you shouldn't have.

[Mongrel]

Unvote: Regan
Vote: Urthdigger
You're sticking up an awful lot for someone who won't give us any details.
But I'm still waiting on that roletrade, Regan.

[Urthdigger]

The little detail I mentioned before is something I'm not allowed to talk about: However, I am not basing this on something that he told me: Rather, I'm basing it on something that happened during one of the night posts..

How would you know whether the little details are relevant to Pardona if you're not allowed to speak about them, and isn't saying that something happened in the night scene that you're not allowed to talk about kinda defeating the purpose of not being able to talk about it?

Apologies if that was convoluted - but say you are telling the truth and you and Pardona have something in common that you can't talk about, it just looks like you've given Pardona information that you shouldn't have.

Perhaps. But other people knowing about it doesn't affect me at all. It has to do with the warning I gave. If Pardona is a baddie, all that would be doing is telling him not to touch me.

Edit: I'm sticking up for him since I believe it'd be a wasted vote. I'd much rather we vote off someone a random on the off-chance that they're evil, than to vote off someone who I believe is innocent. If you do want to vote him off to decide who he is, go ahead then: I'm just warning you that I have a very good feeling that he's an innocent, based on what prior occurances have hinted about his role.

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[Christopher]

Go East

Vote: Pardona

[Evil Stu Man]

I am completely confused with all this discussion thats going on. I guess I will just go with the flow

Vote: Urhdigger
Vote: Pardona

Labyrinth: Go West

[pheonix]

vote:pardona
vote:urthdigger



Edit:forgot we couldnt vote labyrinth

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[malibu]

Edit: I'm sticking up for him since I believe it'd be a wasted vote. I'd much rather we vote off someone a random on the off-chance that they're evil, than to vote off someone who I believe is innocent. If you do want to vote him off to decide who he is, go ahead then: I'm just warning you that I have a very good feeling that he's an innocent, based on what prior occurances have hinted about his role.

If I've picked up what you're saying correctly - that role is absolutely no proof of innocence - it occurs frequently in evil roles. Aside from that there was a dream result saying that he was evil, why would we start random voting?

Also; you misunderstood what I was saying earlier. You said there is part of your role that you can't share, and that you believe Pardona's is the same as yours based on something you can't say. You then continued on to say that in a night scene something happened which makes you believe that Pardona's role is the same as yours. If Pardona knows what you're talking about, then you're kinda breaking the condition that you can't talk about it.

[Urthdigger]

Eh, I considered that rule to basically mean I couldn't outright mention the existence of what it is. Way I see it, my comments that I share something with him are just as me being able to guess that he had it from observing what happened to him. Besides, there are other parts to his role that he did tell me that match up to mine. Here's a timeline if it makes sense.

Pardona activated ability
Pardona and I share roles. I did not mention anything I was not allowed to reveal.
Pardona gets "dreamt" of.

I don't have any other evidence of his innocence besides his role matching mine, both to the extent of what I could say and what I can't. On the same token though, Pickles said that it was passed through the grapevine. For all we know an evilbie could have changed it, or even started it. Or Pickles could be the evil one and saying that someone else must have changed it, or that a power must have deflected it. All I know is what my own evidence tells me.

[machinedreams]

Movement: South

Whoever said they were confused -- StuMan, was that you? -- you're so not the only one. And here I thought I was confused 'cause my brain was fried from work.

[Miyu]

I believe Anvil also mentioned it being a grapevine. A long grapevine.

We are on Day Five now?
So really, how long can this grapevine be - and still be trusted?

It all comes down to trusting the words of person A, who heard it from person B, who heard it from person C, and so forth.

Trust in WW is a luxury.
What kind of baddie is pardona?
What kind of abilities are we talking about?
People keep indirectly speaking of these things, yet never actually saying what they are.

Movement: West

[Evil Stu Man]

I believe Anvil also mentioned it being a grapevine. A long grapevine.
"Snip"
People keep indirectly speaking of these things, yet never actually saying what they are.

So You are sayinq that we do not know if these theories are true or false.

[malibu]

What kind of baddie is pardona?

Like I've already stated - dreams are alignment. As in, they state whether or not someone is evil.

What kind of abilities are we talking about?
People keep indirectly speaking of these things, yet never actually saying what they are.

Urthdigger said that Pardona's abilities are similar to his:

I said it earlier, and I'll say it again: Whoever tries to kill me, whether if a villain attacks me, or if I'm put up for execution, will regret doing so afterwards.

What's being hinted at is pretty self-explanatory.
As such, the reason that the power by no means indicates innocence should also be evident.

[Urthdigger]

Well, here's how I see it, plain and simple. We have Pardona, who was trying to organize who is what to give the innocents an idea of who is innocent and who isn't, and myself, who has similar abilities and has been trying to map out the maze. Then we have the grapevine, which we have to trust that everyone in it is a good guy, and that we don't have some bad link passing along false information, or even that pickle herself could have been the corruptor, using the fact that she said it was word of mouth to blame someone else once eyes turn to her. All you have against us is the word of mouth from someone who you have no idea if they're a dreamer or not. Don't be so hasty to trust their words versus ours.

[Pardona]

Sorry, sorry, try to remember, I was actually asleep when all this was going on. The way I see it is simple: I have tried to organize the innocents. I have roletraded with several of them. What more do I have to do to convince people of my innocence? Like I said, I'm willing to roletrade with anyone who asks me to. And really, I have no explanation for that dreamer hit. But are you really going to put your trust in such a long grapevine? Like Miyu said, trust is a luxury. For now, I will

Unvote: Machinedreams
and
Vote: Pickles

because its the only part of the grapevine I can see.

Roletrade, anyone?

[Urthdigger]

Vote: Pickles
Yeah, I originally considered not doing this since I don't really need people jumping on me more than they already are. But I suppose if someone believes her, they'll vote for me whether I call for her death or not.