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I had a great idea for the pound. I sent my idea to neopets already. Let me know what you think about this.

Pound Delay System
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There are many people who use the pound to transfer pets. There are people who like to adopt pets, lab them until they are a pretty color, and then pound them for others to adopt. It can be risky. People have wanted a way to safely transfer pets. There is no way to safely do this, or to insure that the person you would pick to adopt your pet is the one who would get it.

Pound Delay would work like this:

You want to abandon your pet. You can choose two options. Pound delay or immediate display.

If you choose immediate display the pet immediately goes into the pound. Anyone can see it, anyone can adopt it. This would be great for people who just want to pound a pet and don't care who gets it, or if anyone gets it at all.

If you choose Pound Delay the pet would not appear in the pound for about thirty minutes. It would just be in a kind of limbo. The pet would STILL be searchable, AND adoptable, but you would have to know its name to be able to adopt it. This would give a person plenty of time to switch accounts and get it, or to find a nice owner, or to tell a special someone that the pet is there and ready to adopt.


Some people may say this would cause too many problems, as people would sell their pets, hack into an account and steal a pet, or that no good pets would appear in the pound and people would only give pets to their friends. All would be good arguments against it. If you can think of more arguments against it, let me know.

What I say is that these problems already exist. People already try to sell pets, they already try to transfer pets, and they already try to pick a certain someone to adopt their pets.
These things already exist anyway, and really, I think my idea would help actually. If the pound were less risky then people could safely transfer pets. There would be less emails going to the staff and less boards complaining when things don't work out. People would get their pets so they wouldn't harrass someone and say "you STOLE my pet". They would get their pet so they wouldn't have to whine to the staff about it.
I know there could be the possibility of hackers getting a pet, but well, this already happens anyway, so I don't see it getting any worse.

If they had a pound delay system I think it would actually help some of the problems people have with the pound. The potential for abuse could be there, but it isn't something that isn't happening already anyway.

The only problem with this I could forsee with this is if it glitched and your pet got stuck in limbo or if some other unknown glitch happened.

That's a really great idea. While the pet is in "limbo" would you be able to adopt it, or would you have to wait the full half an hour or whatever length of time? I really do like the idea of no one being able to see the pet unless they know the name though.

The only problem with this is the "auto adopters". It's not so much of a program(?) as it is just something continuously refreshing a pet name. I've heard LE pets, rare colours, etc are targeted and put on a refresh list. This still wouldn't solve the problem with that if they were adoptable.

Maybe if you could type in a textbox what time (NST) you want to pound a pet and submit?. Then the other person could fill in something similar to the "search" function of the pound and put what time they'd like to (try) and adopt?.

For instance, user A pounds Fluffy and puts in 12:49 NST.
User B searches to adopt "Fluffy" and puts in 12:49 NST.

What I meant to happen was this:

Person has a pet with a great name and color. I guess we can say the name is fluffy.

Person A puts fluffy in the pound. Fluffy is immedately adoptable at that moment, but someone would have to know that fluffy was there. There would be no way to know that fluffy was there. No one would see fluffy in the pound for thirty minutes, so no one would know fluffy was even there. There would be no way someone would know fluffy was there, unless the owner told told them they put fluffy in there.

The owner can then switch accounts and get fluffy or they can tell someone fluffy is there, or they can do nothing at all and fluffy will eventually appear in the pound for everyone to see and anyone (this means anyone with a fast enough computer...quickest reflexes..ect...hehe..) can get.

So person A mails person B: I put fluffy in the pound. Person B has plenty of time to get it. I guess someone could make a program or auto buyer, but chances are person B will get it because only A and B are aware that fluffy is in the pound. Maybe they could make the adoption process complicated so that a human has to do it. Maybe you can type in a code or something.

Ahh. Well, I thank you for contributing your idea to this dilemma in the first place!. I really hope TNT will implement something akin to this to help with transferring pets. Are you going to inquire about it in an email to them? I'd love to see if they took your idea into consideration.

It sounds like a brilliant idea, the only problem with it is that it would still be open to AA programs as they just refresh with the names of certain pets. So for example if you are on a board and someone with an AA goes to your UL and sees fluffy they can add its name to their list. That way it doesn't matter when fluffy goes into the pound as it would still be snapped up immediately as the program has been refreshing continually.

Do I make any sense?

Yeah, I see. I didn't realize there were autobuyers like that. They could do something like make you type in a code or something before you adopt. Or maybe they could have a couple of pets appear on the screen and it would say, Which pet did you want to adopt? Please click one.

So the code would be like this
http://www.neopets.com/process_adopt_pet1 or something like that. Whatever process they would use it wouldn't have the pet's name in it. It would just have whatever number was on the list. I don't know if that would work or not.


or something like that so even if they tryed to trick the process code by having the name appear in the link in their autobuyer, they wouldn't know which order fluffy would be in on the list.

So they could end up with one of the other ones if they used their autobuyer.

Please click on the number next to the pet you want to adopt.

1. Fluffy123boogers
2.X___fluffy____X
3.F_l___uffy
4.Fluffy
5. Ofluffy0

Are you sure you want to adopt Fluffy?

Please type in this code as it appears on the screen
or

They could have some image on the screen that can fool autobuyers or one of those pictures like in the shops where you click on an ixi or something in the picture, since an auto buyer wouldn't be able to figure that out.

Anyway they could make it so a human has to do the adoption and it would trick a program.

It might be funny if the ended up adopting a random pet instead of the one they wanted.

So end the end they might get a process adopt that doesn't even have the pet's name in it. So even if they tried to skip all the steps and just keep refreshing the process adopt link, it wouldn't have the pet's name it. It would just be a number or something unguessable.

I think it's a great idea smudge.For the autobuyer problem,they could neomail you saying

Dear ______,
Do you want __________ to adopt your pet in the pound Fluffy?If so go to this link _____________

That's what I was trying to say. XD

I've always supported the idea of safe transfers. I think Neo should have a system in place where Neopian A goes to the pound and sees Adopt, Abandon, or Transfer options. Transferring would involve putting in Neopian B's username and waiting for E-mail confirmation, then waiting for A to confirm the transfer a second time, something like the Trading Post where A is always in control of acceptance. To prevent too many pets going around for avs and such they could charge an extra neopoint fee and have a delay so the pet takes a while to move. I'm sure if they wanted they could have a Transfer Center open only during certain hours, a few hours at a time 3 or 4 times a day so everyone can use it at a good time for them. To be sure I was getting my pet back from a trusted guildmate or move him/her around my accounts, I would pay extra and wait a day or two. This would eliminate the AA problem, too. Well... in a way.

Neo is so afraid of this transferring thing and people do it anyway... why not make it safe?

The only problem with that is the selling issue, again. And I'm sure many lenders would require someone to pay that extra np if it was high enough to cover the costs. I don't know, I think it would just cause problems.

I'm sure on other, illegal, backalley forums and websites there would be a private market for Neopets if the transfer-to-username idea was implemented.

Example only;
Instead of going: Hey, I'll give you this high level Shoyru for $10. You MIGHT have a chance of catching it in the pound, but I can't guaruntee it. If you don't, your money is wasted.

They'd just have that guaruntee, no risks, and it would probably invite a lot more interest in said illegal market by illmannered cheating people out there. D:

Again, I'm just using this as an example. I have no idea how selling anything with real money on a virtual website works, nor the prices. XD;

Sounds like a good idea, I hope TNT consider it.

I must admit though, the Quick Adopt link, is very quick and easy to use - buy yourself or having a friend pick up the pet.

When transferring a pet to a side account, I have 2 browsers open - one for the pounding and one for the transfer.

You have the transfer set up with the quick adopt link as such:

http://www.neopets.com/process_adopt.ph ... ETNAMEHERE

You refresh the page and get a message:

ERROR : Terribly sorry, this pet already has an owner and is very happy!

Then when you pound the pet on one browser, you only have to refresh the transfer page on the other browser and you get the pet.

If the pet is going to someone else, you give them the quick adopt link with the pet's name and they can get the pet with no problems. All you need to do is set up a time.

Eh, I particularly don't really see the need for a system like that. I think it would open more doors for bad things than for good and if you understand how to use the pound to transfer, it's relatively low risk.

Like it's been said before, nothing about having a delay would stop autobuyers, which are the real threat in transfering...and I think adding some sort of code (like the type you enter when you create your account) would just gum up the process and make it harder on everyone and increase the chance of lost pets.

I do see where the idea of 'easy/safe' transfering is desireable, but I actually happen to agree with TNT here, that it's just not really possible considering all the negatives.

And as for the people who accuse others of 'stealing' pets, well, a pound delay system won't cure stupid. And those are the people I imagine pounding a pet, going on a snack break then coming back only to find that the delay ran out.

Usually if I need to transfer pets by myself, I use a combination of Mozilla + Internet Explorer. My "catcher" is Mozilla because of it's tendency to be faster, my "pounder" is IE.

I just recently transfered a Royal pet with an aged painted Snowbunny and I was fine. No problems, middle of the day with most traffic, decent connection. I was fine.

.. Again, not that I'm promoting that though. Just saying.

Sounds like a pretty good Idea if you ask me. Sure beats tryin to transfer a pet and then end up loosing it.