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 Post subject: That Palm Fan person...
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:02 pm 
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Wasn't there someone a while back who was attempting to make palm fans rarer or more expensive by buying as many as possible? I can't remember who is was, but I remember thinking at the time that I loved the idea and that if I found a junk item I liked enough I would do it too.

I have found one! Cheery Plant! It's really cute, and 1np on the wiz.

I would just like to know how that person did, whether this is considered morally wrong, and whether or not you think it would work. I have already collected 103!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:06 pm 
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Wasn't there someone a while back who was attempting to make palm fans rarer or more expensive by buying as many as possible? I can't remember who is was, but I remember thinking at the time that I loved the idea and that if I found a junk item I liked enough I would do it too.

I have found one! Cheery Plant! It's really cute, and 1np on the wiz.

I would just like to know how that person did, whether this is considered morally wrong, and whether or not you think it would work. I have already collected 103!

Won't work with this sort of item. The thing about both of those items is that there's a huge amound of them being created all the time. You can buy a thousand, but that's probably fewer than enter the economy in a single day.

If you want to do this, you'll need an item that isn't being created (much) anymore. Preferably one that people actually have some sort of reason to want or get used up.


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I believe doing that would be a freezable offence. Since its basically swaying the economy in your favor, ish not allowed.


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Of course - if you wanted them as a collection, then that is perfectly allowed. However, falsely inflating the cost of an item is not - it is indeed a freezable offence.


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Of course - if you wanted them as a collection, then that is perfectly allowed. However, falsely inflating the cost of an item is not - it is indeed a freezable offence.


I see...

I get your point, but how would they KNOW whether I was doing it for a collection (i.e...oh I finsihed collecting, now I want to sell them...or just releasing loads and loads onto the market at the same time after hoarding them for ages in order to make money o_O


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I remember someone said that they were trying to get 1 million pieces of wool donated.. because then she'd sell them for 1np and thus, getting 1 million nps. =)

I agree though with Raza. People are going to continue getting Cheery Plants and there's just way too many.

But if you're going to now collect them for fun, good luck!


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Advent Calendar items will never be made again so you could try with them ;) assuming it's for a noble cause though..


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Anoohilator wrote:
Advent Calendar items will never be made again so you could try with them ;) assuming it's for a noble cause though..


I already have with a few bits and pieces, but not on a very large scale. I had totally frogotton about the fact that more and more with be put INTO the economy :lol:


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I hang out at the money tree for Mossy Rocks, but I have no delusions about being able to make a profit out of them. I'm just trying to see how many of them I can collect.


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Pixa wrote:
Of course - if you wanted them as a collection, then that is perfectly allowed. However, falsely inflating the cost of an item is not - it is indeed a freezable offence.


Citation? (i'm curious, not attacking :))


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I think you might have been remembering my post a couple months ago, where I was responding to someone's neopian times article, where they say you should discard all those stupid useless fishing items or pick your own items or tiki tack items, rather than selling them to someone else who also can't use them for anything.

I was agreeing, and went a step farther to say I wonder if we could buy all the ones currently for sale and discard them, stuff like dung, petrified bones, broken fishing poles, broken left sandals, etc... things that you just can't use at all, that are totally useless, and get rid of them. The idea was not to drive the price up, but to kinda clean up the server of all the useless junk. Kind of a role-playing noble anti-litter program, I guess... :P

I then did an experiment on, I believe, broken left sandals. I wanted to know how much a person could spend on buying them and discarding them before you'd go broke. I don't believe the price of them would ever go up, even if you did buy all the 1, 2, 3, even 5np ones, because they are truly useless. Only a few people are going to want them for a collection or a gallery, so they won't really ever drive the price up.

So, I was partly trying to find out how many of them were up for sale (and see if I could ever get to the end of the list), and partly doing my neopian duty throwing away trash that nobody was ever going to use. :)

I actually abandoned the experiment out of boredom after an hour and a half, because really, have you ever noticed how freaking boring it is to buy a hundred + of the same thing? and since I never made any progress... I mean, I spent about 150 NP buying them, and still never got to the bottom even the 1np items, meaning that there were more than 150 of that item for sale (big surprise). So it would take a long time before you'd go broke, since they were all really cheap, but there are SO many of them for sale, that I think ANYONE would stop of boredom before they bought enough of them to incur a big cost. Even if you were really patient and made it all the way up to 1000 items...

However, I too remember reading, I believe in the editorial, something about inflating the prices of things by stockpiling, which they said was not allowed. I'd have to find it though.


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Rachel did a thing where she made the account thejunkshop (or something) and bought junk items and then sold them BULK for 3np each. People did buy (and bookmark) beacuse when they needed bulk junk (for whatever reason) they'd be willing to pay hte extra few np to save the time.

Totally time consuming on her behalf tho.


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I wasn't actually planning on making any profit out of them at any point, I just wanted to see if it was possible.

I do LIKE the idea of cleaning up all the junk, but now I see that people just get more and more...more and more are created every day. I have about 700 junk items (not counting doubles and trebles) in my SDB as it is.

TNT should just deleted every item worth 1np and start all over again :lol:


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So is discarding stuff actually good then? I thought it cluttered up the site more?


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afaik, when you discard something it ceases to exist.

one less broken left sandal in the world.


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