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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:27 am 
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I have read the online article and saw that the pet owner of Chirita is actually from Singapore? Hmmm...

I think it is a bit biased against Neo, though some of the insights are true. But I wouldn't coin the integration of ads to the whole online experience 'sneaky' ... I can't think of a word, but I think the term 'sneaky' is a bit overboard.


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330 neopoints is a lot? Wow, that means there's lotsa rich people here ^^


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;) Kudo's to the staff for removing his annoying posts! Mrblah is someone who kept posting nothing but !! in a few of the boards. I'm glad to see them removed!

Okay, before the idiot so rudely interrupted, we were discussing the time mag thing.

I have to agree with it in basics, but if that bill passes, it will effectively kill Neopets, because the adversiting is so deeply imbedded.


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330 neopoints is a lot? Wow, that means there's lotsa rich people here ^^


:roflol: That's what I thought too.

(hope you were being sarcastic) o_O


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I just read the article. Interesting. Though I think the person who wrote it got some of their facts wrong. I would expect Time to be more thorough if they're going to publish an article on a subject. Like get to know more about the subject, in this case, Neopets.

As far as passing some sort of bill on immersive advertising, I can't see how the lobbyists will let that go through. It's not just Neopets that has immersive advertising/tie-ins, etc. They just happen to be one of the biggest sites.

And for some bizarre reason that absurb bill does go through, there's always banner ads, with no need for pop ups. I am quite sure that a way will be found.

Children and adults are constantly bombarded with advertising, there's no getting away from it. To target a specific thing like this is, to say the least, unfair.


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I just read the article. Interesting. Though I think the person who wrote it got some of their facts wrong. I would expect Time to be more thorough if they're going to publish an article on a subject. Like get to know more about the subject, in this case, Neopets.

As far as passing some sort of bill on immersive advertising, I can't see how the lobbyists will let that go through. It's not just Neopets that has immersive advertising/tie-ins, etc. They just happen to be one of the biggest sites.

And for some bizarre reason that absurb bill does go through, there's always banner ads, with no need for pop ups. I am quite sure that a way will be found.

Children and adults are constantly bombarded with advertising, there's no getting away from it. To target a specific thing like this is, to say the least, unfair.


see... this is exactly what I was talking about. Negative publicity for neopets. :x


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As far as passing some sort of bill on immersive advertising, I can't see how the lobbyists will let that go through. It's not just Neopets that has immersive advertising/tie-ins, etc. They just happen to be one of the biggest sites.

And for some bizarre reason that absurb bill does go through, there's always banner ads, with no need for pop ups. I am quite sure that a way will be found.


I personally would like to read the bill, because if it's anything like I'm thinking, it will be a bad thing, all around. It could even be worded in such a way that it limits the number of ads placed on any webpage that targets a child player base, not just Neopets. This would effectively kill several sites, not to mention Neopets, because they'd lose over 3/4'ths of their funding from the sells of ad space.

It will probably be worded in such away that the sponsor games will have to go bye-bye in favor of those only for Neopets.


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Users visit on average for 3 1/2 hours a month


So does that mean I am really REALLY addicted because I spend more time than that on a daily basis?! :o


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Like kids arn't exposed to hours of commercials a week while watching tv.


Actually, they probably are I'd say... What is it, 10 minutes out of an hour show is commercials? In any case commercial messages certainly aren't hidden like on neopets.


I think that was supposed to be sarcasm... oO

And Neo's ads aren't hidden. On every page with advertisments, there's a disclaimer near the bottom that says "This page contains advertisments." There's a very clear line between Neopets original content and sponsor content.


Lol, oops then. It can be hard to tell over the internet, especially with less obvious things or if there are no indicators. (now if there was a "like" in front of that statement...) *shrugs*

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Lol.. I've never had anyone mistake my sarcasm for valley-talk. Interesting.


Heh, you think that's interesting then I should introduce you to a few people I've met, who've mistaken my sarcasm for valley-talk, which is rather hard to do. ;)


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If they did pass a bill on immerse advertising the only things neopoets would have to worry about is the sponsor items. All the games have a notice right at the top saying it's a paid advertisment, so those would be fine. I definately would not consider they're advertising "sneaky". Whoever wrote this didn't spend any time at neopets getting to know the site.


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actually, it might be an elephante. these statistics are basically negative against neopets. :x


Elephantes are not furry... I think it is a Uni.

I also agree that it seems to be kind of negatively talking about Neo.



hey, it could be a plushie elephante. :)

Plushie pets aren't furry either., they are talking about an Eyrie.

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Wow, so if you take all the inactive users neo has, you get 3 1/2 hours per months, I thought it would be less.


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Wow, so if you take all the inactive users neo has, you get 3 1/2 hours per months, I thought it would be less.


That's what I thought, and I'm curious as to how they got that number. But then again, it's maybe not too much considering all the users that go on for hours every day.


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I think the onsite advertising is something Neopets has done very well. I too would like to read the bill, just to find what exactly it is trying to prevent.

I also wonder how they hope to prevent something like this over the internet. Would only sites hosted in the US be subject to this law? Would only American companies be unable to advertise. Or would the US simply take it upon themself to patrol the entire internet?


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My personal opinion is they should fix the patent system and then leave the law system alone... They're just pulling junk laws out the wazoo to get noticed and reelected.

But i'm sorry... that's all politics...

Immersive advertising is so not a crime... How about putting flyers for more inappropriate bars on telephone polls?

Oh wait... that's politics too :oops:

I swear, i really do hate politics ;)

Eyrie would be best bets i guess.... But Chirita can't be that girl's pet can it?... Besides, no GREEN EYRIES there... Whatever :)


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Time Magazine approached the subject of Neopets like a plumber giving a lecture on coronary bypass surgery. :roll:


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