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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:47 pm 
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I don't even want to post because I feel that's it's selfish to try and empathize with something you will never experience. I can't think of what it would be like to be on an exploding vehicle, or learn that the train that your loved one took was bombed by terrorists. It's just not something you can feel if it's never happened to you.

Please pray for these people.


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This is absolutely sickening. I cannot believe that anyone would be so evil as to do something like this - killing innocent people, injuring lots more and just creating utter chaos, destruction and misery on a city, on a country even, that is just trying to get on with life.

I heard about it at work. One of the girls husbands came in and told us so we put the radio on. At first I didn't believe him. Well, I did, but it was weird because I just went into denial. And then again, it always lingered in the back of my mind that this would eventually happen.

I just hope that the people who are directly affected by this, the people in London, get through this okay.


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I found out at school - they had the news on in the Libary.

Don't really know what to say, but my heart goes out to the families of those killed. I guess I've got an inkling now of how it must have felt for those in America during the 9/11 bombing - having a terrorist attack in your own country or whatever and knowing people that live there.

*btw, not trying to make a debate or anything. I know that if you scale it up, 911 was probably a lot worse with the death toll and everything. I'm just saying I've got an *inkling* of what it could have felt like*

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why is it now that the english worry?
are you all so young, that you cannot remember the constant IRA attacks?
we have suffered under terrorist attacks in one form or another, for the best part of a century, why should this be the one that makes us afraid?


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why is it now that the english worry?
are you all so young, that you cannot remember the constant IRA attacks?
we have suffered under terrorist attacks in one form or another, for the best part of a century, why should this be the one that makes us afraid?


So... because other terrorist attacks have already happened, people should just not worry about this one? I'm sorry, but that sounds like crazy reasoning to me. Because the United States was already attacked at Pearl Harbor, does that mean we shouldn't have been worried about September 11? Because we already had a World War I, does that mean we shouldn't have been worried about World War II?

I mean, come on...


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I just wanted to say I feel very, very sorry for the people who lost loved ones because of these attacks.

Don't know what else to say... I just feel sorry.


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Setekh wrote:
why is it now that the english worry?
are you all so young, that you cannot remember the constant IRA attacks?
we have suffered under terrorist attacks in one form or another, for the best part of a century, why should this be the one that makes us afraid?


Because this is the one based on a perverse view of an otherwise mainstream religion, rather than a desire for independence.

The IRA wanted an ideal. Al Qaida wants liquidation. And it's the latter that is truly frightening.


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Setekh wrote:
why is it now that the english worry?
are you all so young, that you cannot remember the constant IRA attacks?
we have suffered under terrorist attacks in one form or another, for the best part of a century, why should this be the one that makes us afraid?


So... because other terrorist attacks have already happened, people should just not worry about this one? I'm sorry, but that sounds like crazy reasoning to me. Because the United States was already attacked at Pearl Harbor, does that mean we shouldn't have been worried about September 11? Because we already had a World War I, does that mean we shouldn't have been worried about World War II?

I mean, come on...


okay.
im going to remain calm and not get this thread locked.

Maybe im unique, maybe im just old enough to remember the constant attacks upon my nation, from an agressor that really just cant get over the past, maybe im just too phazed by the stories of my dad being snipered by terrorists to worry.
but none-the-less.
Every person ive talked too is unphased, because they remember the BBC bombing a couple years back.
because they remember bloody sunday, and warren point and the numerous other attacks.
maybe we are just phased by experiance.
maybe we are just phased by the recolection of how bad it could have been?

(and worl war 2 was slightly differant, a full scale invasion is very differant to three bombs in train stations and one on a bus)


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the people spoke.
they couldnt handle that they lost.
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they couldnt handle that they lost.
they staged a massed uprising.


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I suppose that's the problem with religious attackers. The belief that an all-powerful God is on their side makes them think they can get away with it, despite compelling evidence otherwise. What about World War II? The good old Brits stood up whatever hell the Nazis could throw at them and gave them some back. The Al-Qaida doesn't have the Luftwaffe - they've just got no chance.

My heart goes out to those affected.

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In response to certain issues dicussed on the first page of this thread:

Terrorist attacks happen every day in many other countries, thus I do see why certain people have a hard time feeling extra compassion (one should feel compassion anyway).

However, that's a terrible thing to have happened. I wish the victims and family victims' members the best.

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I suppose that's the problem with religious attackers. The belief that an all-powerful God is on their side makes them think they can get away with it, despite compelling evidence otherwise. What about World War II? The good old Brits stood up whatever hell the Nazis could throw at them and gave them some back. The Al-Qaida doesn't have the Luftwaffe - they've just got no chance.


Who says it isn't on their side? There were plenty of people who faught religously motivated wars (or at least partially) and got away with it. But I'm not here to start a debate.

I dare say Al-Qaeda does have a chance at making complete mayhem. They still have no clue where Osama Bin Laden is, for one.


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EDIT: Sorry for exploding x___i I guess, oddly enough, I'm actually used to all of this happening. Terrorist attacks in Russia (my homeland), in the USA, and London, and those are all places I've lived or been in relation too. (not saying other countries didn't have terrorist attacks)
God bless the souls injured or killed by this attack. :(


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im going to remain calm and not get this thread locked.


You're right. This isn't the place to argue- and I certainly don't want to get this thread locked either. I realize where you are coming from, maybe I too would feel that way if I had been involved in terrorism the way you have been.

Either way- my prayers and thoughts go out to everyone that lost loved ones- and the people that were injured. I don't see how anyone can be heartless enough to do things like this- but then again it's nothing new, and I'm sure this won't be the last of it either.

I really don't know what to say I guess- it's hard to put into words a situation like this.


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Then again I always have a hard time feeling that much compassions for things like these, people die of more horrible things than we can ever imagine every second all around the world and suddenly it's all about one single thing (take the terrorist attack in NY for example).


Let's hear you say that when your country gets bombed. And I can't really think of many ways to die that are more horrible than blowing up.


Eh? Of course I will get upset if something happens here, already told you that. I don't see what you're getting at when I already have explained that bit regarding my opinion etc.

Anyway? Blowing up? Oh yeas, I can think of many more horrible ways to die that don't kill you instantly but leave you to suffer. Rather tasteless topic to discuss about though.


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Yes, I don't think now is the time or the place to discuss how "terrible" or not these attacks and deaths are compared to any others in the world or past. Any human life lost is a terrible thing, any human killing another is incomprehensible, and all relatives of people killed in such ways are just as bereft.

My thoughts are with those affected by this, their friends and families and those who live in these areas. Far too many people have died and been injured, it's absolutely terrible.


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I feel really bad for everyone that's over there and offer up energies to the families of those that have lost their lives and all those that are injured. It's horrible :(


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