Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:36 pm
o_0 wrote:HAHAHAHA New update.
My mum went to the next workshop lesson today. They introduced the concept of the "Knowledge Wall."
Kids are each given a piece of paper or index card to put on the bulletin board with all the information they believe will help them during that chapter's tests. During each quiz/test, each student is permitted to go up there to look at the "knowledge papers" for 60 seconds. They are allowed to go up at any time during the test/quiz.
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
So they can just look at the questions when they get the quiz, then scurry up to the board to look up the answers.
i remember that being "implemented" here in the UK when my mum was training to be a teacher.
was dropped within the year because it was a horrendously stupid idea as it happens.
oh well, with luck i will die in 2012 as i predicted.
or live forever in some dark cave plotting to overthrow order and goodness, whichever is okay by the fates.
Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:41 pm
Wow... I was afraid our government had the most demented ideas, but the people who devised that system win the award 
Re: New Teaching Style
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:15 am
fzun wrote:
Gosh, that's even stupider than the science FCAT I had to take last year.
The good ol' science FCAT, I have to take that next year.
Don't they work there way up grade by grade( first year, just K-1, second year K-3, third K-5, fourth K-7 ect...) when implementing a new curiculum like this?
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:53 am
I think that retakes give students an opportunity to learn from the mistakes they made. This year I had MCAS Prep, which prepares you for the state wide test that students need to pass in order to graduate. I didn't do oh so well on this one test, and I had the chance to retake it (because the whole class did bad). It wasn't the exact same test but same topics. I think it helped to be able to go back, see where you went wrong and then study and learn the subject. HOWEVER, letting a student keep retaking a test is ridiculous. If they didn't do well on the first retake, they probably don't have any interest in studying or doing well.
The 1 point per assignment thing...I don't see how it would work.
Eh, I personally hate the share with your partner thing. We do something similar to once in a while in Geometry. It's called "Pair and Share" or something like that.
Step 1: Think for 30 seconds
Step 2: Share with your partner
Step 3: 30 seconds to solve
However, the teacher does call names and reviews the answers.
I don't really see how that new teaching method will work. I swear the school boards get dumber everyday. >.< They encourage the students to be lazy and not try. Then when it comes to the standarized tests, they all fail. I wonder why.
The 1 point per assignment thing...I don't see how it would work.
Eh, I personally hate the share with your partner thing. We do something similar to once in a while in Geometry. It's called "Pair and Share" or something like that.
Step 1: Think for 30 seconds
Step 2: Share with your partner
Step 3: 30 seconds to solve
However, the teacher does call names and reviews the answers.
I don't really see how that new teaching method will work. I swear the school boards get dumber everyday. >.< They encourage the students to be lazy and not try. Then when it comes to the standarized tests, they all fail. I wonder why.
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:26 am
o_0 wrote:Unless my mum and several Internet sources are all playing a practical joke on me, I'm telling the truth. ._.
It's not you people disbelieve so much as the stupidity of whoever designed that educational system. Sometimes stupidity can be pretty disbelieving because it's so amazingly bad.
I must remember to go into younger years' education. They can't do much to kindergarten kids.
Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:28 pm
.....
My mom was a teacher for a while. She is now a guidance counselor.
I showed her this, and she says this would have never have been considered when she was teaching. This is flippin ridiculous. Kids aren't going to get a job and have all the right things to do right in front of their faces for them to use, nor will they get 'Not Yet' every time they screw up at a job. It's stupid. It's telling people that failing is OK.
I'm not sending my kids to school in Florida. .___.
My mom was a teacher for a while. She is now a guidance counselor.
I showed her this, and she says this would have never have been considered when she was teaching. This is flippin ridiculous. Kids aren't going to get a job and have all the right things to do right in front of their faces for them to use, nor will they get 'Not Yet' every time they screw up at a job. It's stupid. It's telling people that failing is OK.
I'm not sending my kids to school in Florida. .___.
Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:37 pm
Don't worry, it's only, as far as I know, in one county in Florida, because each county controls most of the school stuff.
My mum came home yesterday with ten of these foam disc-shaped frisbee-ish things. I asked her what they were for.
She said that they are for the kids to play with, because apparently they say every twenty minutes kids need to get up and do something or they won't learn to their "full potential".
What complete and utter crap.
._. My school has 90-minute classes. I have used one bathroom break since sixth grade. And I manage to maintain a 4.0. ._.
My mum came home yesterday with ten of these foam disc-shaped frisbee-ish things. I asked her what they were for.
She said that they are for the kids to play with, because apparently they say every twenty minutes kids need to get up and do something or they won't learn to their "full potential".
What complete and utter crap.
._. My school has 90-minute classes. I have used one bathroom break since sixth grade. And I manage to maintain a 4.0. ._.
Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:43 pm
o_0 wrote:
My mum came home yesterday with ten of these foam disc-shaped frisbee-ish things. I asked her what they were for.
She said that they are for the kids to play with, because apparently they say every twenty minutes kids need to get up and do something or they won't learn to their "full potential".
Wait...your mom teaches high school students right?
Wow.
*is beyond speecheless*
They are reducing students to their lowest potential with this new system if anything.
Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:56 pm
AFI_Sorrow wrote:o_0 wrote:
My mum came home yesterday with ten of these foam disc-shaped frisbee-ish things. I asked her what they were for.
She said that they are for the kids to play with, because apparently they say every twenty minutes kids need to get up and do something or they won't learn to their "full potential".
Wait...your mom teaches high school students right?
Wow.
*is beyond speecheless*
They are reducing students to their lowest potential with this new system if anything.
Yes, she does teach high school.
._. I mean, come on, school is for learning, not playing.
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:11 pm
Oh. My. Gosh. People are stupid -.-
And if this system spreads we can make sure everybody will be.
How great.
And if this system spreads we can make sure everybody will be.
How great.
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:11 pm
Potential is a dangerous thing. Much like your bank balance, you've always got less than you think.
<3 Dylan Moran.
<3 Dylan Moran.
Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:10 pm
I hope to God that this doesn't come to where I am... It's bad enough in my school, I mean... This is just stupid. o_o.
That's about the best word I can come to to describe it. Stupid. Very, very, utterly stupid.
That's about the best word I can come to to describe it. Stupid. Very, very, utterly stupid.
Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:14 pm
OK, the whole 7 years of primary school I had recess AND gym, I didn't take full advantage of it. I pretty much just played my GBC during recess and half-assed my way through gym. I maintained A's the whole time, except for in 5th grade math when I got a B, but that was because the teacher did the whole content area solely with a computer program. Stupid. Yar.
Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:53 am
o_0 wrote:every twenty minutes kids need to get up and do something or they won't learn to their "full potential".
That whole 20 minutes thing is probably for thoes classes where the teacher talks in monotone the whole time and everyone falls asleep
I swear my algebra teacher this year had the best way to put you to sleep. She'd start talking and then 10 minutes later I'd be asleep, and so would a number of other student. It was funny but yet we all still passed lol.
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:28 am
Hahaha.
Just finished talking with my mum about what she learned today at the workshop.
Three new things.
First, the learning style thing wants each subject to have their own generic tests, regardless of book the class uses. This is horrible for my mum, because she is a Spanish teacher. I looked at the vocabulary list for first year Spanish students and more than half the vocabulary was not from the Spanish year one books they use! So more work for the teacher to remember.
The second thing wasn't that bad. They want each unit to have a pretest. The pretest has to be the same exact thing as the unit final test.
Third, each test within the unit (i.e. grammar test of Chapter 3, vocabulary test of Chapter 8, etc.) must only have five questions at the most on it. This is horrible for students (who can get a B by missing one question, or a D [whoops, I mean "Not Yet"] by missing two. Also, one can easily go up to the "knowledge wall" and memorize the five answers they need.
e.e
Just finished talking with my mum about what she learned today at the workshop.
Three new things.
First, the learning style thing wants each subject to have their own generic tests, regardless of book the class uses. This is horrible for my mum, because she is a Spanish teacher. I looked at the vocabulary list for first year Spanish students and more than half the vocabulary was not from the Spanish year one books they use! So more work for the teacher to remember.
The second thing wasn't that bad. They want each unit to have a pretest. The pretest has to be the same exact thing as the unit final test.
Third, each test within the unit (i.e. grammar test of Chapter 3, vocabulary test of Chapter 8, etc.) must only have five questions at the most on it. This is horrible for students (who can get a B by missing one question, or a D [whoops, I mean "Not Yet"] by missing two. Also, one can easily go up to the "knowledge wall" and memorize the five answers they need.
e.e