Editing Talk:Main Page

==Front Page Revised==
Front page is going under revision. it's cluttered and sloppy, and i'm going to try and fix that in the next few days. Help where you can, especially with putting character/game pages in their proper [[:Special:Categories|categories]]. Hope to have this settled soon enough...--[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 17:24, 6 Mar 2006 (CST)

:Front page is continuing to be revised. This talk page has also been cleared of old discussions...--[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 10:35, 31 Mar 2006 (CST)

Could we do something with the front page to make it look more exciting? It's looking a little empty at the moment and it's a shame it doesn't reflect the quality of articles that is now offered at the NeoDex.--[[User:Yukio|Yukio]] 13:44, 29 May 2006 (CDT)

:I know what you mean. Will look into the next few days and see what can be done. really should take a look at it, as i already made a promise to revise it, at least to myself that is *whaps head*...hmmm...--[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 15:22, 29 May 2006 (CDT)

Okay, I think I'm going to put in a news/FAQ design similar to http://www.tmbw.net/ except with a FAQ instead of that "Getting Started" section. Just an idea for you guys. Thoughts?--[[User:Hermioneelovesron|Hermioneelovesron]] 06:12, 26 Jun 2006 (CDT)

::How about we have some sort of Frontpage Sandbox page where we can all mess around and tinker with how maybe the front page should look? '''--[[User:NeoEva88|NeoEva88]] 21:34, 24 Jul 2006 (CDT)'''

::Alright, I sorta took it upon myself to create that sandbox idea I had on a sub-userpage [[User:NeoEva88/frontpage|here]].  I think it looks good, of course I'd still love some suggestions though.  I personally think it's kinda short, but I dunno what other content should be put on there. '''--[[User:NeoEva88|NeoEva88]] 22:38, 24 Jul 2006 (CDT)'''

:I like it, good work. It is a bit short, I would just put a bit of whitespace beneath it so it seems to not end so abruptly, at least in the meantime... --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 04:35, 25 Jul 2006 (CDT)

I Like it too. Much more appealing to the eye than what i've had on the front page. :D Shall the "blah blah blah" section be random links? Also, should it be a featured article in the box on the right? it would require to edit the main page every week, which really isn't a big deal though. just wondering what it is we want, as this does seem promising. *thumbs up* --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 12:24, 25 Jul 2006 (CDT)

:We could use a Template:Featured, and copy the text into it each week... Or move it there, or something... --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 16:05, 25 Jul 2006 (CDT)

::Yeah, a Template:Featured or some equivalent would work better.  That's how the Uncyclopedia front page works.  Also, the blah links were actually just space fillers because I thought there might be more Special pages or navigation pages we should link to up there, but I didn't know them. '''--[[User:NeoEva88|NeoEva88]] 16:24, 25 Jul 2006 (CDT)'''

::I thought maybe to lengthen the front page design we could have a quote of the day section, I got the idea from Wookiepedia.  Maybe there aren't too many good quotes for Neopets though, I dunno.  I have a little filler box on the bottom of the page that can be used for something.  Any other suggestions? '''--[[User:NeoEva88|NeoEva88]] 10:25, 27 Jul 2006 (CDT)'''

:''Dance Party''!? I'm not quite sure how to respond to that :P! I hope it's only a temporary feature... :S --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 23:20, 29 Jul 2006 (CDT)

Yeah...''Dance Party''...I was bored. :S *ahem* And i've actually made it a permenant feature via [[:Template:Funfiller|template]]. I thought it would be a fun thing for the front page, as it serves two purposes: filler, and fun. will be changing every week along with the featured article...at least that's my intention. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 11:44, 30 Jul 2006 (CDT)

:I had an idea for a bit of filler... having a row of 100x100 px images, 'snapshots' of each world, with a link to their respective NeoDex page... One thing I think we should avoid would be a list of 'dailies' and links to them... Every fansite, guild homepage, etc etc seems to have them on their front page :P. --[[User:84.13.33.212|84.13.33.212]] 13:36, 30 Jul 2006 (CDT)

::Ohh nice idea for the front page.--[[User:Yukio|Yukio]] 09:40, 31 Jul 2006 (CDT)

Should be mentioned that the Wishing Well text in bold doesn't actually link to the featured article, it should. '''--[[User:NeoEva88|NeoEva88]] 20:31, 6 Aug 2006 (CDT)'''

=="Wockypedia"?==
Whereas [[wikipedia:Wookieepedia|Wookieepedia]] is the name of the Star Wars Wiki, could we rename the Neopets Wiki to "'''Wockypedia'''"? --[[wikipedia:User:Shultz IV|Shultz IV of Wikipedia]] 21:11, 3 May 2006 (CDT)

:At the moment, '''NeoDex''' is the current name, and will stay that way for the unforseen future.--[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 15:44, 4 May 2006 (CDT)

:: Funny, I was actually thinking about that name recently - but I thinks the NeoDex has started to become a name synonymous with a Neopets Encyclopedia ;)--[[User:Yukio|Yukio]] 13:44, 29 May 2006 (CDT)

::: I say it should stay NeoDex, because it's just a whole lot easier to type than Wockypedia. --[[User:LifetimeMembership|LifetimeMembership]]

::I've said it before, I think, but I'm all in favour of 'In-depth Neopedia'. --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 04:35, 25 Jul 2006 (CDT)

:::You know, I like name too - it reminds me to keep departments naming consistent - but that would mean I would have to re-name all the departments such as neopool to in-depth colours and avatar catalog to in-depth avatars arrgh @_@--[[User:Yukio|Yukio]] 18:29, 27 Jul 2006 (CDT)

::Oh, I don't know. 'In-depth Trophy Catalogue' has a certain ring to it, I think (:P). Well, 'in-depth rainbow pool' and 'in-depth avatar guide', perhaps... Eh, maybe not :P. Those are both topics  which it isn't really possible to get 'in-depth' about, is it? Were you to rename the NeoDex (in that fashion), you could always move the neopool and avatar sections down from full 'department' status to more of a sort of 'guide' level, as they are not so much as a ''collection'' of guides (as IDNQ, IDB, and, of course, the NeoDex ''are'') rather a guide in themselves (if my overworked memory serves me correctly, I believe that the avatar catalogue, at least, used to be just a page in the guides section - although I do not recall whether it was actually listed in the guide section: I remember there used to a link at the top of the PPT main page, or rather, above the news entries, not exactly the ''top'' of the page)... Although, having said that, the approach to the site designs of the neopool and avatar catalogue does have some element of a... hierarchy, if you will - their own sections - that would be difficult (although not necessarily impossible) to integrate within the main body of PPT (I suppose it would really depend on the limits of how your CMS structures the guides themselves, presuming you use a CMS rather than do all the modifications by hand - the PPT NeoDex article is blank on the issue). They could remain 'separate' from the core of PPT but just be listed in guides, I suppose. Mind you, if these sections are headed by two volunteers (other than yourself, Yukio) in much the way Jacob heads the NeoDex, they could become a bit... Miffed, at having their distinction curtailed, if you follow. Of course, another way to go about it would be to divided the departments into two sections, not necessarily a formal boundary per se, but possibly one. Or you could integrate the Neopool and Avatar Catalogue (and trophy catalogue, I suppose) into one bigger section... In-depth Collectibles, perhaps? Sorry, I appear to be blabbering o_O --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 23:20, 29 Jul 2006 (CDT)

:::Phew! Long paragraph, but worth of course :) Constructive ideas always appreciated of course as it only betters the site. I'll read this through closely and then see what I can implement.--[[User:Yukio|Yukio]] 09:41, 31 Jul 2006 (CDT)

==Article Suggestion==
Item Registry. Y'know, a huge list of all Neopia's items sorted by type (neohome, food, faerie quests, toys, etcetera etcetera). I'd be willing to undertake the majority of it, with some help. -[[User:LifetimeMembership|LifetimeMembership]]

:There is already an article titled [[Item]], where wiki links to each of type of item can be talked about, and there is also a [[:category:Items|category]] for items, but the NeoDex, will ''not'' be a place for listing all the items of Neopets. maybe in the future, but at this time i see no such thing. articles for items ''can'' be made, but only noteable items, as i'm sure an article titled "Bread" as in the food item bread is a waste of space. And if one really wants a list of all the items of Neopets, all they have to do is go to [[NeoItems.net]]. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 20:54, 9 Jul 2006 (CDT)

::Oh, okay then. -[[User:LifetimeMembership|LifetimeMembership]]

:Perhaps a page for each of the hidden tower items? Other that that, I agree wholeheartedly with Jacob.--[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 04:35, 25 Jul 2006 (CDT)

==Neodex logo?==
What should we do for the Neodex logo?  Is the general consensus that the Blumaroo stays?  I don't happen to like the Blumaroo much, and it's not a good logo to put in other places.  Just a thought.  '''--[[User:NeoEva88|NeoEva88]] 10:23, 27 Jul 2006 (CDT)'''

:I think the Blumaroo writing on a paper is fine, and doesn't need to be updated. If it should recieve more negative feedback though, i'm wondering what it would be changed to. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 11:57, 27 Jul 2006 (CDT)

::I'm happy for a change, if we can get in a better logo :)--[[User:Yukio|Yukio]] 18:27, 27 Jul 2006 (CDT)

:How about a Blumaroo sitting at a desk with a quill, constructed entirely of pieces of a jigsaw a la the wikipedia/uncyclopedia logos? Or virtupets space station constructed of such. It's almost spherical, so it could be identified easily with the wikipedia logo, and being spherical it would not be too difficult to create the logo to a high level of precision for it to be identifiable, and the Vitrupets space station is a recognisable icon of Neopia. --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 23:20, 29 Jul 2006 (CDT)

::Now that is a really good idea! Anyone here do graphic artistry by any chance?--[[User:Yukio|Yukio]] 09:42, 31 Jul 2006 (CDT)

:::Yeah, I was thinking about Virtupets a bit too, something round at least.  I don´t like the idea of it being made out of jigsaw pieces though, it doesn´t need to be ''that'' much like Wikipedia.  I just think something round that would seem a bit suggestive would work.  (The [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Wookiepedia] logo being an excellent example.) '''--[[User:NeoEva88|NeoEva88]] 11:49, 1 Aug 2006 (CDT)'''

I think it should be one faerie from each type... that would be cool. Who agrees? --unsigned by 71.92.99.181 03:37, 5 May 2007

:At the moment, a new logo isn't in the works, but ideas are always welcome. :) --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 23:08, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

::I've added a new logo to the NeoDex --> It's an Ixi readin a big dusty book / tomb. You know how cool those tombs get. :) At least now there isn't the default image that use to be there. --[[User:Yukio|Kym]] 14:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

==Front Page Revamp 8/1/2007==
Can we revert to the old version while the page is being overhauled? And have possibly new versions on subpages for a later editor review? --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 00:41, 1 Aug 2007 (UTC)

:I don't know...I'm kind of smitten with the new look (duh, it's mine ;P ). But if there are some tidbits to go over before it goes fully up, I suppose it's fair. All the same, what do you think of what I currently set up? I took out a lot of links in the summariezed TOC, seeing as it was originally random. Where would you like the "testing zone" for the new front page look to be? --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 01:04, 1 Aug 2007 (UTC)

::It's nice, yeah, although the way the featured template is much longer than its adjacent box detracts from it a bit. I just think that if we are going to overhaul the front page, the change could be a bit more drastic, hence would probably need general consensus ;¬). --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 19:02, 1 Aug 2007 (UTC)

==NeoDex coding updated==
It would seem the NeoDex coding has been updated...wh00t? :D Though it seems a lot of things have changed, along with some things that seem broken. It will be dealt with in due time I am sure, but for now, I'm glad to see progress is being made for this. What does everyone else think? --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 10:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:Yup, the PHP and mediawiki are now updated ^^. New wikicodes are now accessible (We can finally resize image without modifying the original image). --[[User:SwordFire|SwordFire]] <sup>( [[User talk:SwordFire|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SwordFire|contrib]] )</sup> 10:34, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

::Image URLs no longer form the embedded image, though. This is going to take a lot of work to fix, as it's quite a widespread issue, but hopefully it'll pay off in the long run. It's worse on pages such as [[Altador Cup II]] where the images not being displayed in line are causing some layout issues. --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 02:01, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::I've enabled the upload function again which was disabled when the back-end was upgraded. Should be working again. I'll also get a graphic designer to design a new WIKI logo. --[[User:Yukio|Kym]] 04:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Unfortunately the upload feature is still disabled at the moment. As for the embedded image, we do have a choice of [[wikipedia:Help:Images_and_other_uploaded_files#Embedding_external_images|enabling it again]] if required. --[[User:SwordFire|SwordFire]] <sup>( [[User talk:SwordFire|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SwordFire|contrib]] )</sup> 16:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::Thanks for the link to fixing the code. I've enabled embedding images again so that should fix up a lot of the issues right there. :) The uploading feature has also been enabled again. (Upgrading the code had some slight code changes which set a couple of things to their default values. If there is anything you guys ever want switched on/off, just leave a note here. :) --[[User:Yukio|Kym]] 08:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

::::::They're working now, thank you. :) But for some strange reason, some articles still do not display the embedded images even though their history do. We'll just have to manually re-save those articles again to bring back the embedded images... --[[User:SwordFire|SwordFire]] <sup>( [[User talk:SwordFire|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SwordFire|contrib]] )</sup> 09:55, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

The one thing I do miss is the necessary log in of users in order to have them even edit articles. Now we're back to the age of having IPs edit articles. What's everyone's view on this? Has it been good or bad overall? --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 07:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

==Nominating this page for protection?==
I'm not really sure how to request this or anything, so I'll just post it here and see what people think. It seems this page (Talk: Main Page) has been the target of a lot of vandalism. Maybe you guys could semi-protect it? I don't really know how it all works, so feel free to critique my idea :P
[[User:Siouxper|Siouxper]] 21:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Requesting such a thing can be done here on on an admins talk page. I've made the necessary protections in either case. ;) --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 07:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

::Thank you for the quick response :) Next time, I'll be sure to do it in the right place :P Sorry for posting it in the wrong place [[User:Siouxper|Siouxper]] 14:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

== Oldddddddddd Wiki ==

Wow, this place hasn't been edited for a while, like if it was abandoned. I mean, the Main Page hasn't been edited for 1½ years!!!--[[User:Ogrin|Ogrin]] 23:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, really. The featured article hasn't changed since the wiki was founded. -- [[User:10-Volt|10-Volt]] 01:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

:I can assure you it's not abandoned, [[Special:Recentchanges|changes are taking place all the time]]. And the featured article has [[NeoDex:Featured Articles|changed a lot]]... --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 03:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

== Seriously ==
Why are we inline linking from Neopets? Just want to steal the bandwidth? [[User:4Ply|4Ply]] 23:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:The point of [[Special:Imagelist|wiki images]] is so that we don't use their bandwidth. If you see any normal images, upload them onto the NeoDex: [[Special:Upload]], [[NeoDex:Image use policy]] --[[User:Dizzy|Dizzy]] 23:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Admin Change Coming ==

The status quo is changing in the admin department, and we want your thoughts and opinons! Head over to the [[NeoDex_talk:Community_Portal#New_Head.2Fadditional_Head_Admin_needed|talk page of the community portal]] to have your say, and see history in the making! There will be cake. --[[User:Jacob|Jacob]] 08:08, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

==2009 revamp== 

I'm looking to remodel the front page and a bit of how the wiki works over the next few weeks... Part of some of the things I've been talking about with Kym to link in better with the Pink Poogle Toy community, and hopefully to make everything look a bit fresher and more accessible to new editors. So, heads up, intention in writing. ;) --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 20:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
:Looks very nice!  :) I thought PinkPT was dead (seeing the boards), but I'll perhaps contribute here now.  --[[Special:Contributions/207.177.111.34|207.177.111.34]] 17:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

==Image Upload Broken?==
Is anyone else having trouble uploading images?  I get an "Internal error: The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver. " error everytime I try to upload something.  Who do I even talk to about these kinds of problems?- [[User:emeraldosprey|emeraldosprey]]
:Same problem here, dude. [[User:Journey to the Lost Isle-er]] 19:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

==New-new layout==

So good they named it twice. This new version (the version as of 8th November 2010) is meant to look a bit cleaner and fresher than the last version (which had been essentially unchanged for 18 months). It was born out of a need to make the layout sturdier (the boxes had started going different sizes), and I decided to incorporate some aesthetic changes as well. I think it's a bit tidier. 

Also, clever though the obubble and ibubble templates were, they made it damn hard to maintain, so I've not reused them for this layout. I want to leave them on the system for a bit so the page works in the history, though. For comparisons, you know. 

Questions, complaints, and comments, as always, discuss below. =) --[[User:Macbeth|Macbeth]] 17:42, 8 November 2010 (CST)

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