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 Post subject: Re: 13 year old boy becomes father
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:07 pm 
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Naturally, this whole affair gives rise to other media reports such as this.


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 Post subject: Re: 13 year old boy becomes father
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I went to a public school (admittedly, one of the better public schools). I saw maybe one pregnant girl the entire time? This is not common behavior. Part of the problem is that way too many people think this sort of thing is okay.

I'm not sure that people think it's okay but that it's more common than most think.


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As you can see from the map above, the highest teen birth rate is in America's Bible Belt. I like the irony =D

U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) report (PDF) http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr57/nvsr57_07.pdf (see page 7).

I live in New Jersey and go to a good public school. I've only meet three people at school that were pregnant. Two of which moved to America, were over the age of 18, married, and having their first (planned) babies (I don't know why they attended high school).


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Theres a email collection that was being passed around at work, it had a bunch of funny headlines, this was one of them:

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 Post subject: Re: 13 year old boy becomes father
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Canada has a fair bit of teenage canoodling and hanky panky! Which is why my brothers first wife was 15 and a half when she got pregnant (not my brothers kid, thank you very much).

Have I ever mentioned that my brothers first (now ex wife, thankfully) is my age to the date. Both borh June 11, 1984? Yup. I can't imagine having a kid at 15... let alone... ya know a kid whose now 8!!! Dear goodness me! Scary.


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 Post subject: Re: 13 year old boy becomes father
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Yes, well thankfully there is support for young mothers/parents now.
I remember speaking with a woman who, at 20, had a child out of wedlock. She was forced to give up her baby up for adoption and pretend that it never happened. This was back in the early 60's in Alberta :roll:


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Yes, well thankfully there is support for young mothers/parents now.
I remember speaking with a woman who, at 20, had a child out of wedlock. She was forced to give up her baby up for adoption and pretend that it never happened. This was back in the early 60's in Alberta :roll:


Happened in a lot more places then Alberta, but at the same time, my province is rather slow moving on the updating of more modern ideas.

I blame Fort McMurray for all of Albertas problems. Its a good thing to blame.


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As you can see from the map above, the highest teen birth rate is in America's Bible Belt. I like the irony =D

U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) report (PDF) http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr57/nvsr57_07.pdf (see page 7).

I live in New Jersey and go to a good public school. I've only meet three people at school that were pregnant. Two of which moved to America, were over the age of 18, married, and having their first (planned) babies (I don't know why they attended high school).


That's the highest teen BIRTH rate, not the highest teen PREGNANCY rate. There's an obvious difference that I really don't want to get into here, but the Bible Belt aspect makes a lot more sense in that context.


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That's the highest teen BIRTH rate, not the highest teen PREGNANCY rate. There's an obvious difference that I really don't want to get into here, but the Bible Belt aspect makes a lot more sense in that context.

That's actually a good point to make. I believe though, that the South still has a higher-than-average teen pregnancy rate. California and Nevada are the top two for actual pregnancies.


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Happened in a lot more places then Alberta, but at the same time, my province is rather slow moving on the updating of more modern ideas.

I blame Fort McMurray for all of Albertas problems. Its a good thing to blame.

I know the shortcomings of this province all too well :roll:
And yes, blaming Fort McMoneynomore is a good practice to follow.


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Why can't these teens just take an abortion?


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Why can't these teens just take an abortion?


Beliefs. Cost. Social stigma... there's really quite a list of reasons why they can't or didn't.


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The CAN. They just DON'T. For whatever reason they may have.

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That's... not good. Kids at my school were not having sex at the age of 13. Even at the age of 18 it's still uncommon.


They weren't that you know of . Or, well, I guess it partly depends on what kind of school you went to and how selective its intake was.

It is utterly naive to think that this doesn't happen; by that same token it's ridiculous when people suggest this makes the kids involved weird.


I went to a public school (admittedly, one of the better public schools). I saw maybe one pregnant girl the entire time? This is not common behavior. Part of the problem is that way too many people think this sort of thing is okay.


Not common in the circles you move in. Saying 'not common' depends on the social context you place teen pregnancy in. It is rare for the father to be so young, yeah, but it is NOT rare for kids that age to be experimenting with sex, and it is certainly not rare to find pregnant 15 year olds! So when you say 'this is not common behaviour' that just makes me a boggle a bit, to be honest.

Also, I don't think finding it unsurprising or not condemning it means that one is endorsing it.


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That's the highest teen BIRTH rate, not the highest teen PREGNANCY rate. There's an obvious difference that I really don't want to get into here, but the Bible Belt aspect makes a lot more sense in that context.


Valid point. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/09/12/USTPstats.pdf See page 12.


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