I've been getting a few reports of messages with changed values...
I have to run to class, but I'll check them out soon!
[rushed edit] If you have changed values with either 2-mod or 3-mod with O, and want to figure out a set of values that will work for that tier of puzzles, do this:
Find the "zero" (really, just equivalent to zero) by looking for a situation where having the same symbol down a column causes no change (like X + _ + _ + _ = X, where all the blanks are the same symbol). (This step will break with 3-mod without O, since +2+2+2, +4+4+4, and +6+6+6 all act like +0.)
Once you have the identity, one of your remaining symbols must be 1. Once you know which one it is, the other symbols' values can be found like this:
0+0+1+1=2
0+0+1+2=3
0+0+1+3=4...
So try __=1 with all six symbols in the __... You'll get 4 or 6 possible sequences, and one of them will be {1,2,3...} - I suggest just seeing which ones fit. (They come in mirror-image pairs, and either one of that pair will work for the current tier; the other one of the pair will be like -1, -2, -3... If you want to try to carry on your values from one tier to the next, you'll have to figure out which one of the pair).
I hope that helps!
Arka wrote:
spoonguardonline wrote:
... With careful logic, and keeping the steps going, an hour is plenty to get through a Mod 3.
wow! You must have a much faster computer, or faster clicker finger than I do. It took me about an hour to get through one code number. The 3 mod codes all took 3-4 hours, depending on how early the answer appeared.
Hmm, this sounds to me like a challenge!
I just had to check this, so here's a crude approximation (the normal way, without my optimization):
3-mod with O: 12 first-symbol-combos * ~(30/7) first mod * ~(29/7) second mod * ~(28/7) third mod * 5 seconds each = 71 minutes worst case, or average about 35 minutes each
I'm a bit surprised by this next result, but 3-mod without-O does look like it's harder (or at least longer):
3-mod without O: 10 first-symbol-combos * ~(30/6) * ~(29/6) * ~(28/6) * 5 seconds = 94 minutes worst case, averaging to 47 minutes
[edit] The "5 seconds" might be a little optimistic though - it's probably more like 10 seconds (which would double the times).
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That's a good way to look at it. Would definitely add motivation for whacking them. 
