WW 24: Altar of Champions

[Susannahmio]

trying to figure out when Ixist was converted. it's all a blur to me.

Edit: I got it, Ethics did it Night 9

But would I have placed any higher had I converted someone?

And are already evil ones able to be converted? Cause my next choice would have been Ixist!


Once again Piro: Awesome Game! Lots of stuff happening, lots of twists!

[okamotosan18]

It was fun, but I was sad that my daykill didn't have a target to call home.

[Pironious]

But would I have placed any higher had I converted someone?

Hard to say, placing is done via when a team is eliminated, with the exception of Noo, who didn't place because his role was slightly outside the game, if he'd completed his quest, but died, he still would have shared first.

As far as the shop, yes, it was there, but it was only accessable from one area each day, and you all had a tendancy to stick together when visiting places, which is also why it took a while for some of Noo's items to surface.

Man I'm glad it's over... I was not kidding eve the slightest when I said it was taking alot of time to process each night, and you can probably see why now.

[Twizzler0171]

Fun game, Pironious. ^^

So the Burning Legion won because they destroyed the World Tree? Lol, and I won because I was neutral and was along for the ride. XD I must say that mjrinella and Ixist seriously had me tricked -- I thought they were innocent, lol.

Was the (ML!) in my update "Missed List!"?

[Pironious]

Yeah, ML! was just a reminder for myself that said player had missed one, although by the end of the game it was too late to care about missing lists, I tend to stop caring aobut such things later on, it's just when someone does it early I worry.

*deep sigh*

And now, with that epic game played out, I can retire from Werewolf hosting. =3

[Apex]

Meh. I was pretty much doomed by Night 3, when Lovio got my role name.

Anyway, great game, Piro.

And now I know who daykilled me.

Prepare for revenge, Liz.

Aww, go easy on me, Tanner. Like you haven't duped me. And you came back anyways!

That was really fun! I totally never thought Apex, MJ, and Ixist were the burning legion. Especially since Mj had been dreamt innocent.

And that was a great lie to me Apex!

I just wish I had tried to convert someone else, I thought Noo was innocent. Ah well, i'll get em next time!

But WOOHOO for placing third in my second WW game ever! After being uncovered so early at randomness, I thought I was doomed! Thanks for that BTW Piro!

2/2 games evil!

Most of the lie was actually concocted by Mjrinella, who'd actually helped me out a lot during the game. I'm a horrid liar, and neither of us have won before, so this is pretty awesome. Not to mention it's a pretty complex, and the best game I've ever played.


And Oka! If you'd stayed alive, you would've been converted onto my team!

[Susannahmio]

Do you mind if I post the lie you told me apex?

[Pickles]

Bah, Ixist. I *wondered* why you stopped replying to my PMs all the sudden....and then to claim Mjrinella was innocent on top of that. Good job lying, Mjrinella! And Apex, I'm not sure if I ever got 100% confirmation on you being innocent - but your role lie was pretty good.

For the record, those who didn't know, I was Rexxar. I never once lied about my role. And yeah, Pipsqueek, it's a shame I didn't respond to your PM sooner last night, or Kuge would've been alive to save us. I guess there really wasn't another night elf left...we just didn't realize that.

Noo, *so* many people thought you were joking about your role, but I just found it funny

Oka - looks like we weren't *entirely* wrong about you - you could have become evil very quickly. Like Ixist. {grumbles} Glad I spent more time protecting Roxas and Dyl after I got Misha back...

Anyways, thanks for a great game, Piro! Definitely got me convinced to continue playing WW! (This was my first game ever)

Edit: Who killed Xyzzy? I couldn't find it anywhere in the logs...

[Apex]

Do you mind if I post the lie you told me apex?

By all means.


Taking the gamble to shoot the world tree was really scary- if there was even one night elf left, I would've exposed my entire team when I died, despite my 90% shield.

The humor in taking the shot was that Tanner was the one who had inadvertently told me to take it. He told me, without realizing it, that Archimonde would probably end the game tonight since he was almost positive that there were no elves left. I trusted Tanner enough, after some deep internal debating, and promptly sent in a very formal pm to Piro. [Right, Piro?]

Thanks Tanner!

[Typhoon]

Gah, I /knew/ I should have left TOSO alive for one more night. >.< I needed the shield though, cause you guys were gunning for my head for some reason (which doesn't actually make any sense if you think about it.) He wouldn't have actually counted, but him being alive might have dissuaded Liz. Congrats on proving I'm definately not as good at this as I thought, Liz.

[Pickles]

Looking back through the logs again:

Night 4
Roxas_X sees Mjrinella, however due to intargetability, he sees results from Penguin (innocent)

...does thie mean Roxas_X saw Mjrinella as innocent? If so, that would explain where everything went wrong for the innocents...

And Tanner, we were going for you because we knew you were evil - is there any more sense than that?

[Ixist]

YES!!!
I WON!!!
All thanks to Apex, Mjrinella and Ethics. Brilliant idea of converting me after I had rumbled you as being evil Ethics. Remind me to bring you onto my team next time I'm evil!

I was innocent until Night 9, when I was converted, and since I was already level 3 and Ethics had died I could promote myself straight away. However, I did have a daykill for my first Burning Legion role, which I used on Xyzzy before my promotion (sorry, but you were too tempting). I could only attack on odd nights, so the one time I got to attack oth shields held out! ;_;

And yeah Pickles, I was lying to you after night 9. Although didn't you think I was a bit too determined to find out who the last night elf was? But before that I was completely innocent. And I thought I replied to all your PMs? However I have a hard time believing that was your first WW game. You were excellent at it! You should definately play more games, because I want you on my evil team with Ethics in the future

Anyway, this was one of the best WW games I have ever played Pironious, and I have played quite a few. Heck, I remember the first WW game on PPT forums!

Kudos to all! *high fives his team mates*

PS: Piro, I think Pickles didn't use the lute on the Burning Legion because I told him that the Undead were a bigger threat. Mind you, that was only because I had been converted to the legion at that point

[Apex]

Pfft, I've known you were evil for a long time, Tanner, I just didn't want to challenge you too much in case you turned around and tried to challenge me.

And that's right, Pickles. Roxas dreamed Mjrinella as innocent; if I weren't too busy redirecting Pipsqueek's role doubling, I usually had like, Roxas dreaming Ethics or something for the rest of the list.

Ixist, you tried so hard to kill me in the beginning of the game, and all for faulty logic. Not to say I wasn't bad, but you didn't know it for sure.

And hehehehe, Tanner. It's the one game I've managed to dupe you in! I'm pretty excited about that. Though, if it makes you feel any better, I left you a lovely message right before Piro posted the last event.

[Pickles]

For the record, all, I am a girl. Yes, my role was male, but I am definitely not. Sorry, just had to say that.

<<<---- (points at gender icon)

And yeah Pickles, I was lying to you after night 9. Although didn't you think I was a bit too determined to find out who the last night elf was? But before that I was completely innocent. And I thought I replied to all your PMs? However I have a hard time believing that was your first WW game. You were excellent at it! You should definately play more games, because I want you on my evil team with Ethics in the future

PS: Piro, I think Pickles didn't use the lute on the Burning Legion because I told him that the Undead were a bigger threat. Mind you, that was only because I had been converted to the legion at that point

Actually, no, you read them all, but there was a serious lack of responses...so I kinda stopped sending you as much info as I had. I knew you'd been rezzed innocent, but I was seriously starting to doubt your alignment after Xyzzy died and Dyl died/rezzed. As for the Lute - I trusted you because at that point, I didn't have any suspicions that you'd been converted.

I'll definitely be playing more games - I'm glad I did OK for my first one! (hey, being in the tie for second isn't too bad!)

]And that's right, Pickles. Roxas dreamed Mjrinella as innocent; if I weren't too busy redirecting Pipsqueek's role doubling, I usually had like, Roxas dreaming Ethics or something for the rest of the list.

Well, that one dream right there pretty much killed the innocent's chances, I think. It made it rather easy for information to be passed from a "confirmed innocent" (for me, at least, at the end - I didn't have the info until much later in the game - I spent most of the beginning only in touch with Ixist and Xyzzy, and then branched out to Miyu and Kuge a lot prior to their deaths, mostly passing the info I had). I did actually send a PM last night stating that it seemed like there were too many innocents - ironically enough, I think I had a lot of the evils pinned down (except Mjrinella and Ixist), just didn't have the absolute confirmation (especially since I wasn't a dreamer of any sort).

[Miyu]

Ahh pooey.. I had mjrinella and Apex on my spy lists several types.. It was a good game though.. stupid me.. if only I had been a bit more proactive before I dead.. both times.. It was a good game though...

Ric, I tried role trading with you; but good thing you kept it quiet.. seeing as Ixist was in contact with Pickles.. oh well.

Good game, good game..

mjrinella ... revenge.. expect revenge.!! hahah.