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I didn't believe in the Igloo Shop until I found it a great thing to do when I was bored at work. I kept it open in a side window and refreshed every couple of minutes.

But if you pick a specific type of item to look for first and go, you usually do well.
For example, I look for books first (generally good value), stamps (same), and then expensive foods (usually pet-themed food, that are considered "gourmet"). I usually get one or two codestones a day and occassionally a good petpet.

8) Yesterday I managed to pick up a gourmet food item work 50k for 140ish NP. Not a bad turnover at all.


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The "hang" of the stock market is easy. Every day, buy 1000 shares of a stock that is selling for 15. Then look at your portfolio. Sell all shares of stocks you own that are selling for 40 or higher. this gives you almost 300% profit.


The neo stock market is not at all like a "real" stock market. There are not any high-valued stocks that hover around 80-90 nps, nor are there penny stocks that stay at 15-17. They ALL cycle bumpily between 8 - 200 (with a few extremes but ignore them).

just buy every day, only buy at 15, and get a wide portfolio.


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WockyChocky wrote:
The "hang" of the stock market is easy. Every day, buy 1000 shares of a stock that is selling for 15. Then look at your portfolio. Sell all shares of stocks you own that are selling for 40 or higher. this gives you almost 300% profit.


The neo stock market is not at all like a "real" stock market. There are not any high-valued stocks that hover around 80-90 nps, nor are there penny stocks that stay at 15-17. They ALL cycle bumpily between 8 - 200 (with a few extremes but ignore them).

just buy every day, only buy at 15, and get a wide portfolio.


Quantity of unique stocks, or quantity of one stock?

Should I have say, 2000 of each stock-- and if it's doing good, sell 1000 shares... Et cetera?


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I buy at 15, sell at 60. That is exactly 300% profit. I sell all of a stock the moment it hits 60. Sometimes you can wait and it'll go higher, but often it just plummets, so selling at 60 is safe. You will never lose money that way. Check this page to see how the stocks are graded, and try to stick with the ones with a B or better.

Some people sell at 60, some at 45, some at 30. It depends on how impatient you are. Poke around neodaq for different strategies and advice.


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littleboy6326 wrote:
WockyChocky wrote:
The "hang" of the stock market is easy. Every day, buy 1000 shares of a stock that is selling for 15. Then look at your portfolio. Sell all shares of stocks you own that are selling for 40 or higher. this gives you almost 300% profit.


The neo stock market is not at all like a "real" stock market. There are not any high-valued stocks that hover around 80-90 nps, nor are there penny stocks that stay at 15-17. They ALL cycle bumpily between 8 - 200 (with a few extremes but ignore them).

just buy every day, only buy at 15, and get a wide portfolio.


Quantity of unique stocks, or quantity of one stock?

Should I have say, 2000 of each stock-- and if it's doing good, sell 1000 shares... Et cetera?


Oops sorry about the math. Buy 1000 shares of 1 stock that is selling for 15. or, you can buy 500 each of 2 stocks selling for 15.

It's all about patience. A stock will climb to 30 faster than it will climb to 45, so you can have a quick-term double-your-nps. Waiting to triple or quad your nps takes a bit longer. Make sure you stick to your sell price. When a stock hits your sell price, sell all of it.

Don't worry about selling "if a stock is doing good" because you have already decided on the plan - sell at 40. It's not like in real world where all of a sudden a stock will take off and never go back again. If after a while you are not satisfied with your profit, raise your sell price.


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Well, there's also nothing wrong with selling half your stock at one sell point and the other half at a higer sell point if you want to. At least, I tend to do that and nothing bad happens.

Also, I never sell all of one stock. I always keep at least 1 share of everything so all the stocks will show up on my portfolio page. Makes life much easier that way.


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I play a number of games I really like every day. Sell everything you get for free unless your really like it, single neopoints add up. Collect interest daily. Clear your shop till often. at the end of the day make sure you put all your money in the bank so you can gain as much interest as possible. I tried the stocks a few times but always loose b.c the companies go bankrupt. I only feed my pets omelettes, jelly and fish b/c they are free and when buying in the swiz are extremely cheap.


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hammy1142mek wrote:
I play a number of games I really like every day. Sell everything you get for free unless your really like it, single neopoints add up. Collect interest daily. Clear your shop till often. at the end of the day make sure you put all your money in the bank so you can gain as much interest as possible. I tried the stocks a few times but always loose b.c the companies go bankrupt. I only feed my pets omelettes, jelly and fish b/c they are free and when buying in the swiz are extremely cheap.


I'm currently going for packrat, so I don't sell any items.


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hammy1142mek wrote:
I play a number of games I really like every day. Sell everything you get for free unless your really like it, single neopoints add up. Collect interest daily. Clear your shop till often. at the end of the day make sure you put all your money in the bank so you can gain as much interest as possible. I tried the stocks a few times but always loose b.c the companies go bankrupt. I only feed my pets omelettes, jelly and fish b/c they are free and when buying in the swiz are extremely cheap.


I'm currently going for packrat, so I don't sell any items.


You could sell the qty's greater than 1 in your SDB. The packrat avatar is based on 1000 different items. You'd be amazed at house much money you could make from junk "lying around".


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So littleboy6326, with all of this great advice, which did you decide to do ?


*Spring forward, Fall back*


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hammy1142mek wrote:
I tried the stocks a few times but always loose b.c the companies go bankrupt..


Only something like 2 companies have ever gone bankrupt in the history of neo - you must have had really bad luck.

The stockmarket really is the way forwards but only if you don't mind not being able to access your NP.


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Just to allay your fears about the stock market, I've only seen one of my stocks go to 0, and that was about 3 years ago. Since then I've invested probably over 3 million in the stock market. A good sell price for me is around +75% to capture my profits (and then reinvesting the amount back into the stock market). I tried doing 100% or even 200%, but I find that more often than not stocks don't reach the 100% barrier and you're left with a smaller profit overall from this price point.

A side note about the stock market - it is a good place to put your money, but liquidating it back into neopoints takes a long time if you need the profit from stocks for a specific neopoint goal (like Adam avvie). That said, if you don't have very many liquidated neopoints, you might want to stay away from the stock market - it takes awhile to realize your profits.

Do your dailies, although I find most of my dailies' neopoints from my bank interest. I only do Edna quests below 750 np, Esophagor quests below 500 np, and Taelia quests below 2500 np. This is because Edna quests and Esophagor quests often give worthless items as rewards - keeping your budget for each quest at these levels will help maximize your returns. You won't finish many quests, but overall you will gain more np than if you spent 5k on an Edna quest for a spooky doughnut.

Games are good if you don't have a fast connection and know how to restock - you can gain 15k per hour playing the ones that yield the highest np/min. To find this ratio, simply divide the neopoints you get from a game by the time you spent playing it, although this sometimes makes playing games a chore. Look at guides or websites to see which games are the best for gaining np.

Last is restocking - I make on average 100k per hour doing this at non-peak times (12-3 am NST or 8-10 am NST). You want to get familiar with what are common items, and which ones are rare ones. Neoitems.net helps with this, as it will show you which items are really rare, and which ones show up rarely but are not worth much. I like to take a restock period or two to "check" items in an unfamiliar shop - you'll miss some good items, but this way you won't buy that 5,000 item and find out it's worth 2,000. You need a GOOD connection for restocking, and even that won't guarantee you the item.

Because restocking is random now, I keep 5-6 shop windows open (1 being igloo garage sale). Then I constantly refresh each shop window and if nothing changed, I move on to the next shop window. Only go for the rare items - items that net you 500 np or less in profit are not worth the trouble, and you might miss a restock in another shop. Sometimes you can go for the cheaper rarely seen items instead of the 2,500, 5,000, and 10,000 items, as those are clicked on first. For items that I've never seen before, I sometimes like to check it on the shop wiz in another browser window to see if I will lose money on the item, although items you've never seen before (after restocking in that shop for awhile) are generally big profit-makers. Another tip is to move onto the next window if you just bought an item and don't think you'll be able to get another item from that same shop - it saves you a click to "go back to the shop".

Use your number keypad to type in the amount. It also helps to do numbers like 1212 or 2323 because it is very quick to type that out compared to 1280 or 2270. I however like to put in an amount 100 np less than the haggling price - this is usually enough for the shopkeeper to accept the offer. This technique is often difficult for people not skilled with the numpad, but helps your profits in the long run.

Make your screen display as large as possible so you make the icons smaller and don't have to scroll for the haggling page to click on the neopet.

Some shops are also populated more by restockers than others. For example, the spooky food shop is very populated - I've yet to get anything better than chocolate covered peanuts (3k or so profit). I can't even get to the haggling screen for festering coffee (22k) or candy skull (80k?) - it's that difficult, and those profit margins aren't even that large compared to other shops when factoring in rarity and difficulty. The ice food shop and chocolate shop are also very populated, partly due to the chocolate shop having an avvie. Learn a shop and find out what is rare and what is not - that will often make you a lot of profits, even more than restocking at popular shops. The general bookstore is a good place to start, as it will restock with a lot of books - the only downside is the profits are usually small to negative gains if you don't restock rarer books, and 2,500-10,000 neopoint books are bought VERY quickly. Most of the time, you can make 100-1,000 neopoints on each book you restock.

Always have about 100,000 neopoints on hand if you plan on restocking for an amount of time (or more, if you like to restock more expensive items). I've missed out on an 80k profit because I didn't have enough neopoints on hand.

Lastly, price close to the lowest price on shop wiz. Usually 1 or 2 np below the lowest price will sell out in a day or two, but if not, revisit your prices in a week and adjust accordingly.


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neobeth wrote:
So littleboy6326, with all of this great advice, which did you decide to do ?


Stocks, and maybe the odd bit of Wizard Sniping, I guess.


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