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 Post subject: Science classifys Hobbit as new species
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:48 pm 
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http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story? ... 747&page=1
Pretty cool!
I always believed that little people like things existed, because of all the myths and legends. Maybe one day we will find a unicorn. Those are mentioned in the Bible in Genesis I think. And in Job God talks about some huge creature with legs like tree trunks and a hide like iron and breath like fire I think. It all sounds very much like a dragon. And we still haven't figured out what in the world Ezekiel saw.


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This is what I mean when I say you can't say something doesn't exist. At least not 100%. Because someone might discover something like this all of a sudden and history might need to be rewritten.


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 Post subject: Re: Science classifys Hobbit as new species
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Wow, that's cool.

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Maybe one day we will find a unicorn.


And we'll take his kidney!


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Wow, that's cool.

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Maybe one day we will find a unicorn.


And we'll take his kidney!


I call dibs.


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 Post subject: Re: Science classifys Hobbit as new species
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Tested wrote:
Wow, that's cool.

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Maybe one day we will find a unicorn.


And we'll take his kidney!


I call dibs.


Oh, okay...

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 Post subject: Re: Science classifys Hobbit as new species
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:13 am 
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smudgeoffudge wrote:
I always believed that little people like things existed, because of all the myths and legends. Maybe one day we will find a unicorn. Those are mentioned in the Bible in Genesis I think.


As I recall nothing is specifically mentioned in Genesis :thinking: Insects and "all things that crawl" are made about three times (On two seperate days) but nothing named specifically.

Though I can't say beyond that as the last time I read my bible I got too.. What was it o_O eh, I dunno, I didn't get far before bashing my head on a wall.

Ofcourse, saying that Dragons are said to be some weird cross mess-up of old flightless birds (Newer fossils I'd assume, because I don't see anybody finding an intact Pterodactyl. Ever.) and Fire Salamanders.
Though, to be fair it does smack a bit of "We've no idea so lets make stuff up that sounds a bit reasonable.
Intact Dinosaur bones indeed.


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 Post subject: Re: Science classifys Hobbit as new species
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http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story? ... 747&page=1
Pretty cool!
I always believed that little people like things existed, because of all the myths and legends. Maybe one day we will find a unicorn. Those are mentioned in the Bible in Genesis I think. And in Job God talks about some huge creature with legs like tree trunks and a hide like iron and breath like fire I think. It all sounds very much like a dragon. And we still haven't figured out what in the world Ezekiel saw.


I was just reading about dinosaurs in school, and they thought that what Job saw was one of those long necked dinos.. cant remember the name. Can't say they know everything though. But in the Bible "dragon" is mentioned, so maybe they did exist once.. cause even if you don't believe in the Bible, (and say for example someone made it up) they'd have no reason to lie about dragons.

ANYWAYS, since I was also just reading about how lots of ape fossils were believed to be missing links to humans, I wonder if they're sure this isn't an ape too..? Though I didn't read the whole thing so yeah.


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Apes don't make tools like spears and stuff. Or so we think....
And I think little weapons and things were found.


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Besides, the concept of one species being "the missing link" is just plain wrong. Evolution isn't as simple as jumping from point A to point C, thus we need to find point B.

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ANYWAYS, since I was also just reading about how lots of ape fossils were believed to be missing links to humans, I wonder if they're sure this isn't an ape too..? Though I didn't read the whole thing so yeah.


What do you mean by it being an "ape"? If you mean an ape like the ones we know in modern times, of course not. These things are thousands of years old and very different than gorillas and chimps. For one thing, gorillas and chimps aren't bipedal. Whether it was one of our direct ancestors is the question. It could've been a side branch of hominids that went extinct, an evolutionary dead end.

And we've known about florensis for a while now. One of the huge debates in the anthropological world was whether they are a subspecies of Homo erectus, a whole new species, or just erectus that suffered some sort of pathology.


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Kitten Medli wrote:

I was just reading about dinosaurs in school, and they thought that what Job saw was one of those long necked dinos.. cant remember the name. Can't say they know everything though. But in the Bible "dragon" is mentioned, so maybe they did exist once.. cause even if you don't believe in the Bible, (and say for example someone made it up) they'd have no reason to lie about dragons.


Not a chance as it happens, the probability of finding an intact fossil of that (Or indeed any) size is astronomical.
It just doesn't happen, a thigh here half a skull there maybe, but not anything to give a real hint at shape or scale.

Though I'm inclined to go with something like Reign of fire -it's an extinct species that has surfaced periodically during history to cause a bit of trouble- although it would need work to be evolutionarily viable (IE: no single male, doesn't feed on ash, stuff like this)


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Nuez, I didn't mean like today of course.

Anyways since someone said they made spears and stuff never mind. I could believe they're a human sub-specices or whatever.. So yeah never mind.


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Dinosaurs and humans never co existed and there is no evidence anywhere that points to the fact they did.
The Burgess Shale here in North America changed how the world viewed fossil records and how it dealt with evolution. The idea of a singular branching tree was realised to be false and instead the idea of something more like a bush (so many different starting and ending points) is more readily accepted by science now. So the idea of more species/subspecies that appeared and died out during the process of evolution is more readily accepted.

And the name of the long necked Dino's you were looking for Medli was "Sauropods".


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ahoteinrun wrote:
Dinosaurs and humans never co existed and there is no evidence anywhere that points to the fact they did.


*Points to Jurassic park, King Kong and "The lost isle" from various comics, such as Transformers where the Dinobots battle Shockwave!1!1!111!*
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