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 Post subject: Altador Plot Split #39
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:46 am 
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Remember: This is a MINI plot and with NO WAR portion.
Let's repeat. MINI PLOT and NO WAR.
One more time. MINI PLOT and NO WAR.

======== Links of interest =========
Last Thread: http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25594
Altador: http://www.neopets.com/altador/index.phtml?
Clues (by the Lenny): http://www.neopets.com/altador/archives ... lue_list=1
Star Mapper (thanks DarkFire): http://www.boomspeed.com/zaniam/theSky.html & instructions.
Stoodder's Constellation Finder: http://www.ludibrius.com/Neopets/findconst.php
Another Constellation Finder: http://hacks.atrus.org/neopets/findConstellations.fcgi

(Note: Make sure you click CONTINUE (if applicable) when you have completed each part!)

(New Note: The "Add Star" button in the telescope does NOT add a new star to the sky. Instead, it lets you add a star to the constellation you're currently building without drawing a line. This is important to know.)

========= The Beginning ============
1. Click the big castle in the center of the map, The Hall of Heroes
2. In the very back-right corner, you'll see a familiar character. Click him!
3. Hey! It's our old friend again. Looks like he has a new job-- Janitor. Click that button that's next to him.
---> Hm, nothing happened.
4. Oh well, Now click the Altadorian Archives, then go into the doorway on the right.
5. Click the book that is under one of the table legs and balancing it.
---> Hm, we're going to have to replace it...
6. Now go to the QUARRY. And find a rock that'll be suitable. Stumped? Here.
---> Aha! A good replacement for that book...
7. Go back to the Altadorian Archives and click that same book again.
---> We can access the book now! (Located near the top-right part of the scene)
8. You can read the prologue from that book now.
---> Advance a page by clicking the top-right of the book, go back by clicking the top-left.
*** Page 1~3 Acquired! *** (out of 53 pages)
9. Go back to the Janitor in The Hall of Heroes and talk to him.
---> Hmm. We're going to need something to help oil some gears...
10. Click each statue until you find a bottle of oil & a rag.
---> Note: Location is different for each person. Perhaps you should write where you found it, just in case. (Although evidence indicates that it is NOT relevant)
11. Once you've found it, go back to the Janitor and click the button again.
---> The ceiling opens up! Let there be LIGHT!
* On the left side of The Hall of Heroes, there is now a staircase leading up to a dome-shaped room. Looks like a telescope is missing.
* If you click each statue in The Hall of Heroes, on the very top pixels /section of the picture of the statue, you can click and look up, and get some arrangement of gems. There is a helpful compilation of the pictures by soymimi here

======= We see the light =======
1. So it looks like the Astronomy club is finally advertising. Go to the Altador Archives and click the pamphlet that shows a telescope. Or click here!
---> You've recieved a telescope!
2. Go back to the Hall of Heroes and go up the staircase on the left side. Click the telescope holder.
---> It fits! You've found the cinderella! ... Actually I guess you found the slipper... oh whatever.
3. Now for the work. Get to it! Start mapping. By the way, Everyone's star formation is different from another. We can help with details, but you're going to have to interpret on your own from now on!
---> Excellent star mapper courtesy of DarkFire here. Follow the instructions on her post.
---> If you want to map your coordinates yourself in Excel, AngelFoxBlue wrote some pretty clear instructions on doing that here.

===== Constellations: Found! ======
1. THE SLEEPER
--> a. Go to The TOMB (bottom-left corner of the main Altador Map)
On the door of the tomb, the black dots are clickable. Try clicking it.
It lights up
--> b. Go to the Wise Lenny in The Altadorian Archives.
--> c. Go to the observatory and look in your telescope. (At this time use Darkfire's mapper. Any time before this you'll get a different set of stars!)
--> d. Find the exact formation found in part a (the orientation is as seen on the tomb doors-- it is NOT rotated in any way) and you will have found your first constellation! (Important note: You MUST connect the lines rather than just using "Add Star". If you don't, the correct stars can be rejected!)
--> e. After you have found it, go back to the Lenny at the Altadorian Archives.
*** Page 4~7 Acquired! ***
--> f. Go to the Hall of Heroes and click on the DARK FAERIE (the one towards the bottom) and look up. The jewels are illuminated! (And the janitor complains of the light)
--> g. Check in with the Astronomy Club and see what they have to say about your discovery.

2. THE DREAMER
--> a. The top right cloud in Altador is clickable. Do it.
--> b. Near the top part of picture, click on the gaps inbetween the clouds. THis will reveal your new constellation to find.
--> c. Talk to the Lenny again to see what he has to say now
--> d. Go back to the Observatory and look through your telescope.
===> NOTE: Your star map is the SAME as before. HOWEVER, due to star drift, you'll need to get the new updated star data.
===> NOTE: You must connect the "top part" using the *connect stars* option, but to get the lone star you MUST use the *add star* option.
--> e. Once you have obtained your constellation and submitted it, the jewels above The Dreamer (left side) will be illuminated.
--> f. Go back to the Lenny, Astronomy Club, and Janitor to get new messages.
*** Page 8~11 Acquired! ***

3. FIRST TO RISE
--> a. Go back to the tomb (the one from constellation 1). Click the BOTTOM-LEFT corner of the picture. This SHOULD get you to a wide breathtaking view of Altador. (If this does not work, highlight the text above the picture, then click TAB 3 times. THen press enter.)
--> b. Go back to the Hall of Heroes, and click The Dancer (the Cybunny to the LEFT of the King)
--> c. Click the Window that is in view.
--> d. Click the circular pathway, and you'll see the next constellation.
--> e. Go back and talk to the Lenny in the Altador Archives (unnecessary though)
--> f. Return to the Observatory and look for that constellation!
==> NOTE: At this point use the starmapper to get your data. Any mapping BEFORE this time, may cause a DIFFERENT set.
--> g. Once you have found that, go back and talk to the Lenny and Janitor for some nice remarks from them.
*** Page 12~15 Acquired! ***
--> h. If you go to the Astronmy club once again, you'll get an ASTRONOMY BADGE! Yay.

4. THE FARMER
--> a. Go to the FARM. It's on the top center-rightish area of the island on Altador. Or for the lazy, click here.
--> b. Click the DOOR to the windmill (top right area)
--> c. Click the LEVER of the windmill (bottom left area)
--> d. You'll get yelled at, exit by clicking the DOORWAY. (right side)
--> e. Click the mounds of hay to expose your next constellation.
--> f. Go back and talk to the Lenny (if you want, that is)
--> g. Find your constellation by going to the Observatory.
==> NOTE: At this point use the starmapper to get your data. Any mapping BEFORE this time, may cause a DIFFERENT set.
--> h. Go back and talk to the Lenny, Astronomy Club, Janitor to see what they have to say.
*** Page 16~19 Acquired! ***

5. THE DANCER
--> a. Disco Time baby! Uhh. Right. In any case, First go to the ALTADORIAN ARCHIVES.
--> b. There's a new flyer up! It's for the Disco Dance Club! Go in!
--> c. Boogie down. Look at the red light at the top right part of the picture. The upper-left most "dot" in that red light is what you need to click.
--> d. Voila. There's your next constellation to find.
--> e. You can talk to the Lenny again if you wish
--> f. Now go find that constellation.
==> NOTE: At this point use the starmapper to get your data. Any mapping BEFORE this time, may cause a DIFFERENT set.
--> h. Woohoo. Unfortunately, the disco club is now shut down. Poor Janitor... listen to his woes. And the a lil' more info from the Lenny. And again, soap opera central with the Astronomy Club.
*** Page 20~23 Acquired! ***

6. THE WAVE
--> a. Click the dock-like area on the top left area of Altador. (The top-left most boat you can find)
--> b. Click one of the waves that you can find in the water.
--> c. Voila. There's your next constellation.
--> d. Talk to the Lenny to see what he has to say.
--> e. Now go find that constellation in the Observatory.
==> NOTE: At this point use the starmapper to get your data. Any mapping BEFORE this time, may cause a DIFFERENT set.
--> f. Congrats. You've found another one. Go talk to the Lenny and Janitor to get some new tidbits.
*** Page 24~27 Acquired! ***
--> g. But if you go to the Astronomy club, they've given you a present! A Broken Astrolabe.
--> h. Go to Donny (here) and ask him to repair it. You'll get a SHINY ASTROLABE.

7. THE GLADIATOR
--> a. Click on the colosseum. That's the big circular thing right above the Hall of Heroes. Link here.
===> NOTE: The following steps (b~d) are DIFFERENT for everyone. The only way you can get this is by Guess and Check.
--> b. All the doors here are clickable. Click around until you see a Grarrl who asks you to go to the, erm, Punch Club.
--> c. When you find the Grarrl and follow him, you'll be led to a place where you can choose between three bowls of punch. Choose three of them in any order, ie. 1-1-1, 1-2-3, 1-2-2...
--> d. After you register three "punches", check that little golden goblet between bowl #2 and 3. If it's clickable, click it. If it's not, try another sequence.
===> NOTE: If you attempt to drink TOO many cups of punch, you may be KICKED out. You will need to find a way to reenter the Punch club, however the door to get to the Graarrl MAY have changed.
--> e. On the goblet's page, click the emblem of the sun. Voila, it's another clue!
--> f. Proceed like you normally would. Go to the Lenny Archivist, then go to the observatory.
==> NOTE: At this point use the starmapper to get your data. Any mapping BEFORE this time, may cause a DIFFERENT set.
--> g. And there you go, it's your seventh constellation. Astronomy club wants to overthrow their jealous president, and the janitor is once again mad at you.
*** Page 28-31 Acquired! ***

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ookay then. topic has been split.
and we have no new info? what the heck?!


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hylianhero wrote:
ookay then. topic has been split.
and we have no new info? what the heck?!


there isn't much to say.. no one has found anything... doesn't appear anything has been released on Monday.


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Looks like it's more of the waiting game until tomorrow, at least :roll:


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hylianhero wrote:
ookay then. topic has been split.
and we have no new info? what the heck?!


We don't split when new information is made available. We split ever 10 pages because... that's what we do. :lol: Actually, it cuts down on how much blather one has to read, and keeps everyone on topic and makes things easier to find, in a sense. :)


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Well, unless the next clue is hidden rather well, then I do believe it is more waiting for us. :( I suppose having a weekend with nothing to do is handy for those who haven't caught up yet.


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:( I'm sad there's no update...I was really looking forward to a constellation search tonight!


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Dammit! Waiting for the weekend was long enough! Ah well, let's hope that the extra wait means that the next clue is an awesome one that requires much time to get it perfect? Fingers crossed, eh?


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I hope we get an update today. But, I can understand their reasons. After all, this week is only a four day week, and both Good Friday and Easter Monday are bank holidays. If they'd released one on Monday and Wednesday, they would not be able to update again until the following Tuesday - a six day wait *shudder*. So, it's better to have it Tuesday, Thursday and the following Tuesday - it makes considerably more sense.


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No new features on Mondays (in general, in case you missed the policy change) means we have to wait till tomorrow, but Torakor will be there soon.

On the other hand, we do get the updates on the weekends....


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weirdguy wrote:
No new features on Mondays (in general, in case you missed the policy change) means we have to wait till tomorrow, but Torakor will be there soon.

On the other hand, we do get the updates on the weekends....


TNT wouldn't want to update the clue without people there to monitor it - otherwise, they might accidently leave a link in there that makes it really easy to find the constellation, or else accidently post in New Features how to do it. Which would be funny, but also a very impossible possibility.


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Perhaps they are occupied with preparing the content for the coming Easter?


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asmodeus wrote:
Perhaps they are occupied with preparing the content for the coming Easter?


They'll probably just take a week off.


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spoonguardonline wrote:
TNT wouldn't want to update the clue without people there to monitor it - otherwise, they might accidently leave a link in there that makes it really easy to find the constellation, or else accidently post in New Features how to do it. Which would be funny, but also a very impossible possibility.


How can something be impossible, yet still be a possibility ? *shrugs*

Anywho, they don't usually do much for Easter. Simply a few items and increased odds of getting the Easter Cybunny random event, so I doubt its because they're preparing content. Besides, one would hope this plot is pratically finished and is simply being released in chunks, otherwise they'd have to be constantly thinking of new ways to release the constellation maps, then make the artwork fit with the predetermined constellation templates.


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spoonguardonline wrote:
TNT wouldn't want to update the clue without people there to monitor it - otherwise, they might accidently leave a link in there that makes it really easy to find the constellation, or else accidently post in New Features how to do it. Which would be funny, but also a very impossible possibility.


How can something be impossible, yet still be a possibility ? *shrugs*

Anywho, they don't usually do much for Easter. Simply a few items and increased odds of getting the Easter Cybunny random event, so I doubt its because they're preparing content. Besides, one would hope this plot is pratically finished and is simply being released in chunks, otherwise they'd have to be constantly thinking of new ways to release the constellation maps, then make the artwork fit with the predetermined constellation templates.


I agree. They would have already planned out the entire plot, as otherwise they might find a massive hole halfway through, and would have a lot of trouble covering it up.

And an impossible possibility is just my phrase, of saying something may or may not happen. It's interesting, even though it makes no logical sense. Like me, really.


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