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Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:31 am

Shoelace wrote:
dolphinling wrote:
Shoelace wrote:
dolphinling wrote:
Shoelace wrote:I must be terrible at this plot, I can only pick out the star patterns that are wrong :lol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/c ... arhelp.jpg
Any help finding the second one would be fine. I swear I almost found it a minute ago, but it was wrong :(

It's got two reds and a blue, and it's in the middle left-to-right and a bit closer to the bottom than the top.

Are you sure? I found those stars and connected them in loads of ways which looked like the second star pattern, but it isn't working o_O

Did you try both of the stars that might be the bottom one? If you have, I'll upload a screenie that shows what I think it is.

Oh would you? Thanks! I'm so confused, and plus I have to go to school now :(

http://dolphinling.net/neopets/altador/starhelp/shoelace.jpg
That's what I think it is... if not, not sure. Make absolutely sure you're connecting them correctly.

Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:32 am

scarletsiren wrote:
Kaebel wrote:Ok, I really wanted to try and find this myself, but I'm having trouble. I've probably found it and just got the bottom star wrong or something.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/ ... /stars.png

If someone could give me a hand... please and thank you :oops:


Try this:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/scarletxsiren/Extra/starsthedreamer6.jpg


Eeee thank you :D I was right, I found that one before, but I used the little white star for the bottom star instead of the purple one. Thank you again. :)

Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:33 am

hoppy poppy wrote:
dolphinling wrote:
hoppy poppy wrote:Gah, I've been staring at my map for so long i've got a headache. Can someone please help me find the dreamer constilation before i go bonkers?
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9504/map18aa.gif
thanks :)

Below your Sleeper and a little bit to the left. It's got a yellow, a red, and that bright white one in it.


Left? or right? i see the red and yellow, but i dont see the bright white one

OOPS, haha, for some reason I've been messing up left and right tonight... sorry 'bout that. It's a little bit to the right. :)

Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:36 am

Kaebel wrote:
scarletsiren wrote:
Kaebel wrote:Ok, I really wanted to try and find this myself, but I'm having trouble. I've probably found it and just got the bottom star wrong or something.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/ ... /stars.png

If someone could give me a hand... please and thank you :oops:


Try this:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/scarletxsiren/Extra/starsthedreamer6.jpg


Eeee thank you :D I was right, I found that one before, but I used the little white star for the bottom star instead of the purple one. Thank you again. :)


Anytime! :D

Re: GRR

Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:39 am

UncleJohn wrote:Ok im thoroughly ticked off.


I dont know how on earth to save the skymap thing its so dang HUGE, that printscreening wont work, and right clicking to save as wont work either, so im totalie helpless since I cant even take a screenie to ask you nice folks for help. *Sighs.* I have been poking at my map ive fourn THREE places that look exactly like what I need but none of the three works. Two are right next to the eyes which seems common, and one is not.

*Sighs.* Guess ill just have to wait tell he adds the dreamer to the mapper guide thing. *thumps head on desk over and over.* I was hoping they would give us a diffrent form of task to do next like mining or somethin.*shrugs.*


We had a hard time finding ours too at first. If you don't mind doing some quick math in your head, the way we solved it - and in just a matter of minutes - was to do some pre-processing of the coordinates data in Excel. Basically, you get the data into Excel and sort it by y-coordinates. The Dreamer constellation has two stars on the same y-coordinate plane, so:

Step 1: Look for two or more stars with the same y-coords. There will probably be more than one set of these (happened to us). [For example, let's say you find two stars with the same y-coord of 100.]

Step 2: Once you find a pair of stars with the same y-coords, take a look at their x-coords. The difference in their x-coords should be 120. Still, there will probably be more than one set of these (also happened to us). [Using the example, a pair of stars like (100, 100) and (220, 100) would fit this criteria.]

Step 3: If the star pair passes those first two criteria, take that shared y-coord and subtract 20. Look on your sorted spreadsheet to see if there is a star with that y-coord. [Using the example, there would have to be a star with the y-coord of 80 to fulfill this criteria.]

Step 4: Take the original shared y-coord again and this time add 40. Look on your sorted spreadsheet to see if there is a star with that y-coord. [Using the example, there would have to be a star with the y-coord of 140 to fulfill this criteria.]

At that point, we had already found our's. If meeting those four criteria still isn't enough, here are two more:

Step 5: There should be a star at the shared y-coords minus 90. [So, at y-coord of 10, using the example.]

Step 6: There should be a star at the shared y-coords plus 60. [So, at y-coord of 160, using this example.]

I think that should be enough to find just about any Dreamer constellation in anyone's star maps. If not, meaning you have more than one set of data that fulfills all 6 of those criteria, it would be time to check x-coords, but I doubt anyone would need to go that far.

Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:39 am

I come hat in hand. Could someone help me spot the Dreamer? Starmap is 4kb. My screenshot from "Ye Olde Star Mapper" is 2.25mb.

Edit: Many thanks to Dolphinling and Scarletsiren. I thought the constellation was alot bigger for some reason. In addition, screenshot link has been taken down.
Last edited by sape789 on Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:13 am, edited 2 times in total.

Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:40 am

Can anyone please give me the coordinates of the 6 stars in his/her dreamer?

I don't know how to put my star map to any image software, so I would try it the hard way.


Edit: Nevermind! Got it!
Last edited by sid_basu4243 on Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:09 am, edited 1 time in total.

Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:42 am

Hey Farside, thank you for posting that for those people that can work comfortably in Excel. I will say this for the plot, it's definitely set up so that all sorts of different styles can be accommodated.

Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:43 am

sape789 wrote:I come hat in hand. Could someone help me spot the Dreamer? Starmap is 4kb. My screenshot from "Ye Olde Star Mapper" is 2.25mb.

156, -223 (a red, directly below the Sleeper but pretty far down) is the first one, and then it goes to a white, red, white and blue. The bottom one is another white, 265, -287 (or maybe 266, -313, not sure)

Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:43 am

sape789 wrote:I come hat in hand. Could someone help me spot the Dreamer? Starmap is 4kb. My screenshot from "Ye Olde Star Mapper" is 2.25mb.


I'm not entirely sure if this is it, but try it:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/scarletxsiren/Extra/starsthedreamer8.jpg

Edit//I think that's the one dolphinling is talking about. It must be it. :D

Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:17 am

Am I correct in believing that we can use -any- clickable star to create our constillations, and not just the white ones?

Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:18 am

Rayen wrote:Am I correct in believing that we can use -any- clickable star to create our constillations, and not just the white ones?


You are correct.

Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:26 am

scarletsiren wrote:
sape789 wrote:I come hat in hand. Could someone help me spot the Dreamer? Starmap is 4kb. My screenshot from "Ye Olde Star Mapper" is 2.25mb.


I'm not entirely sure if this is it, but try it:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/scarletxsiren/Extra/starsthedreamer8.jpg

Edit//I think that's the one dolphinling is talking about. It must be it. :D


I got the same thing....

http://www.1-877-whatatrade.com/neopets ... reamer.jpg

Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:28 am

im about to give up... its been 4 hrs n i cant find this thing.... plus i have class at 7 am... .night peepz

Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:28 am

hey, could someone please help me find my dreamer: I've been looking for a while an still can't see it, I even made myself a template... to no avail!

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j194/ ... reamer.jpg


Thanks in advance
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