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now I have a 3rd set of data man I am lost


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Elric wrote:
After doing several of these, I'm noticing a mathematecal pattern

The highest dots are exactly 200 points apart, and are exactly aligned horozontally.

The middle dots are exactly 120 points apart, and are exactly aligned horozontally.

The lowest dots are exactly 40 points apart, and are exactly aligned horozontally.

For example:

12, 320
52, 290
92, 260
132, 260
172, 290
212, 320

That might help you guys get your stars better.


You may also want to note that there is a 30 point difference between each row of dots.


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Realized my earlier post was kind of unclear so to sum it up a bit better (if you can see it on the starmap that way is faster, but...):

pre-step: Make sure you've visited the tomb door and then the lenny archivist.

Step 1: http://www.neopets.com/altador/astro.phtml?get_star_data=1

Step 2: Copy this and paste into MS Word. Replace | with ^p then , with ^t.

Step 3: Copy into Excel and select all. Then use data->sort and sort the whole thing using column B, doesn't matter ascending or descending.

Step 4: Look for areas where Column B has identical values. Now check Column A to see if the difference in X values is 200, 120, or 40. There's a good chance this star is in your constellation.

Step 5: Go to your telescope and find this star. Be amazed as the rest of the constellation pops out at you;)


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Is it possible to find another constilation after the darkest faerie's eyes? Or do we have to be able to join the other clubs to get the clues to find the constilations?


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I'm still willing to look up constellations for anyone stuck. PM me your data if you need help.


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thanks so much for that suggestion hon -goes to try-


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thanks so much for that suggestion hon -goes to try-


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Huzzah! Thanks muchly to the person who noted that the constellation isn't rotated or anything - I was rotating the scaled down set of stars from the TCG all over the second map. And for the record, I had yellow stars at the ends of the left line, blue stars at the ends of the right line, and white stars at the middles.

Also, does it seem like when you went back to the astronomy club to tell them about your new findings, the image for the club was larger? I don't recall seeing the blue wocky standing there on the right before.


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c_shanholtzer wrote:
Realized my earlier post was kind of unclear so to sum it up a bit better (if you can see it on the starmap that way is faster, but...):

pre-step: Make sure you've visited the tomb door and then the lenny archivist.

Step 1: http://www.neopets.com/altador/astro.phtml?get_star_data=1

Step 2: Copy this and paste into MS Word. Replace | with ^p then , with ^t.

Step 3: Copy into Excel and select all. Then use data->sort and sort the whole thing using column B, doesn't matter ascending or descending.

Step 4: Look for areas where Column B has identical values. Now check Column A to see if the difference in X values is 200, 120, or 40. There's a good chance this star is in your constellation.

Step 5: Go to your telescope and find this star. Be amazed as the rest of the constellation pops out at you;)


I'm stuck on Step 3... how do I copy into Excel and have it actually show up in three columns instead of just as an unholy, unsortable mess?


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thanks ya guys yer awesome and thanks to my new guardian angel for drawin the lines that super duper helped

cuz then I could see it in the sky loads easier!


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c_shanholtzer wrote:
Realized my earlier post was kind of unclear so to sum it up a bit better (if you can see it on the starmap that way is faster, but...):

pre-step: Make sure you've visited the tomb door and then the lenny archivist.

Step 1: http://www.neopets.com/altador/astro.phtml?get_star_data=1

Step 2: Copy this and paste into MS Word. Replace | with ^p then , with ^t.

Step 3: Copy into Excel and select all. Then use data->sort and sort the whole thing using column B, doesn't matter ascending or descending.

Step 4: Look for areas where Column B has identical values. Now check Column A to see if the difference in X values is 200, 120, or 40. There's a good chance this star is in your constellation.

Step 5: Go to your telescope and find this star. Be amazed as the rest of the constellation pops out at you;)


I'm stuck on Step 3... how do I copy into Excel and have it actually show up in three columns instead of just as an unholy, unsortable mess?


Step 2 sorts the data into a table in Word. If this has been done correctly, the information will automatically paste into columns in Excel, rather than all into a single cell.


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if anyone cant find it, listen, if most of ur stars are NOT white, refresh ur get star data page, thats what lost me! :hug: thanks ppt !i think the next cons in the dreamer(first the sleeper then the....drewamer?)


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Step 2 sorts the data into a table in Word. If this has been done correctly, the information will automatically paste into columns in Excel, rather than all into a single cell.


Ah, got it. I actually had to select all the data in Word and insert a table to make it happen. I think I'm Word impaired. :oops:

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I have a feeling were gunna be looking for Altador next cause he was the only other hero mentioned in her story.

EDIT: Did anyone else notice that on the tomb there was an eclipsing sun?


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