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Well this is my sky bit:
http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mysky1kz.swf

Meh, I got bored and wrote a script that you just dump the star data coord in and it plot it for you, pretty (and it zoom to oooooooo )


Hehe yeah yeah I know I have too much time on my hands but meh the stitching together just annoyed me.

Either way if any of you want yours just send me your list of coords and I'll send you a link to the swf file that is your sky.

Edit:
Okies I'm just going to dump the update in here quick -

http://www.geocities.com/destroydarling/stars1.txt

There is the my final work on sifting through my co-ordinates at whatnot. It's organized according to the star 'colour' (as we have concluded) 1 - 6, and then organized by co-ordinates. It goes positive to negative, and is seperated by "within range" and "outside range" for the telescope (meaning, if it is visible and within +/- 340 on both the x & y axis).

I figured out the percentages of how many are within range and how many are outside of range, and the percentages of how the stars are distributed according to the 1 - 6 numbers.

I also counted the number of stars total and the number of stars for each 1 - 6. For example, for stars labelled "6" there are 4 co-ordinates within range and 5 co-ordinates outside of range, etc.

Took forever but I think, as a base, it can help me understand this better.

When people suggested that we connect stars of the same colour, and suggested the larger stars (those being 4, 5, and 6) being the ones we connect... well, we have to connect at least and at most six stars in order to 'verify' it on the telescope. Plotting out all this data has shown that if we were to depend on connecting stars of one colour (colour 6, for example) then it would be impossible to verify because there are only four star co-ordinates for colour 6 within range.

I dunno if any of this makes sense to anyone right now, it's so late (early?). Haha...

*Yawns.*

I just mapped out the first 5 star coordinates in *one* of my star_data files. It doesn't look like anything that I can recognize, nor did it accept my constellation. Just trying things and posting results. Seems like the star_data files are somehow meaningful sequences, just not for "connecting the dots (la la la)" (sorry, I couldn't resist).

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/view_3.jpg

Ooooh, good idea. I'll be sending my list , I'm far too lazy to map mine out (I don't have that much time on my hands....I still gotta finish a compiler for one of my classes...) and um....I lost my train of thought......


Oh, Navar57, the puzzle person was me . I'm guessing that because of the needing to find the stuff last plot with all the parchments.

I really love this forum. So many witty replies...intelligent conversation (whoops, almost misspelled intelligent, hehe)...not to mention the wonderful help and ideas. You guys are cracking me up...er, might be my funny bone is a bit sensitive at this hour, too.

Too much time on your hands that you can put your information into a program and *click-poof* a map? Niiice. Please PM me if I am allowed to send in my *two* text files as I think there might be a "day" and "night" sky, since my star_data file changed around Midnight (NST which also happens to be my local time zone) and I think the maps might be two halves of a dome or something. And I really want to go to sleep.

Or if anyone has better instructions regarding the Word or Excel version of compiling this data, please PM me. Or just tell me what I need to know and how to get it done myself. That'll work too. I'm desparate.

Another thing noticed: I highly doubt that the coordinates actually change, otherwise your sky would change. I've gone to my sky over and over, and the stars remain the same. So theoretically, the coordinates must also remain the same. It may only appear different because they may occur in a different sequence and order.

EDIT: I can further verify this.

I reopened and refreshed my get_star_data page. Then I went to my original data (which is stored http://www.geocities.com/destroydarling/stars1.txt -- all organized and nice and whatnot) and took a few co-ordinates from there and copied them. I went back to the newly opened get_star_data page and did ctrl+f for "find", pasted the co-ordinates, and entered. It found each co-ordinate in the new page.

Then I repeated it with the same results.

So, as I previously suggested, your star co-ordinates do remain the same, they just appear in new sequence.

Whew... it has been a long night. But so far... I feel it has been productive. Not only did I map out my sky ( http://www.geocities.com/destroydarling/soymimisky.jpg ) but I also sifted through and organized all my star data ( http://www.geocities.com/destroydarling/stars1.txt ) according to their color number, whether or not they were within range or outside of range of the telescope, figuring out the percentages... and to top it off, successfully concluded (at least, I think) that the star_data remains the same.

Yay! :-D

My sky has changed, at least in the sense of starting point of view only. (The coordinates may indeed remain the same in that set; but if there are two sets that might mean we are dealing with a dome-shpaed map, 1/2 a globe. Not one flat map, even if you were to curve to that shape.)

Both my starting point of my Telescope and my star_data files changed around Midnight tonight (NST which is also my local time). A few posts back I verified this myself. It may be a glitch, but it is very curious to me.

I also sat and refreshed many times a minute for several minutes. I clearly have two different starting points and two sets of coordinates.

EDIT:
Here are my two starting points, upon refreshing Telescope various times:

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/view_1.jpg
http://images6.theimagehosting.com/view_2.jpg

Here are the first few strings of coordinates of two different star_data files:

-1,-255,1|-101,-520,1|-105,-308,1|-106,-186,2|-108,-487,2| ...
-108,-337,2|-117,73,5|-118,-257,6|-125,-488,5|-137,-56,3| ...

There appears to be no pattern or repetition in the number sequences, though I only checked with the first coordinate of each against the other.

Which means if I have one coordinate in one map that I don't in the other, and vice versa, there seem to be two maps. Two halves maybe?

It's entirely possible the sky will change at some point. It only makes sense.

Someone should keep track.....maybe there are 2-3 changes....or more. We have 12 constellations to identify, if we had 3-4 per dot system, it would be similar to the last plot with the light.... Then again it might be 6 per dot system.... Which would be nicer on TNT's part since some of us don't want to be up all night long trying to get both going .

That is very odd to me. Because I don't think Neopets would make it as complicated as to have the sky change at different times, because then no one would be able to figure out any constellations except for maybe dumb luck.

Worried that maybe I messed up, I've gone back to my get_star_data page, refreshed again, and searched for co-ordinates from my first collection. And, once again, they were in the new collection. I also noticed that the sequence hasn't been changing for me, as well...

So I'm not sure what is up with your co-ordinates. Mine are remaining the same.



Have you done the "find" option? Go to the get_star_data page and then press CTRL+F. CTRL+F will bring up a window. Take a co-ordinate from your first set and paste it in, and press enter. It should high-light the co-ordinate if it is in your new window and thereby help you figure out if the sequence has just been jumbled, or if you have an entirely new one altogether.

SoyMimi,
WOW! You deserve a pat on the back and a pillow! Way to go!

Mind if I ask what program you used when you were mapping your sky? I am trying with paint as someone suggested and I guess I just don't know the right shortcuts or buttons to click or something?? can't seem to copy on the second (cleanup/merge) page. Ah, well.

I did send a note to darkfire. Is that what you needed?

Anyway, I think I'll hit the hay! Thanks again all!

Thanks! Haha, a pillow would be great... boy, do I need one.

I used Adobe Photoshop when making my sky. Just alot of "Print Screen"ing, and then I took the circular selection tool and pressed shift while making a selection to get an exact circle. After that, it was just a bunch of lining up the appropriate stars... a little extra clean-up of getting rid of certain lines and filling the background just made it look nicer. ;-)

To clarify my theory of two halves, since I am so tired I probably mis-spoke earlier. I suppose since the Earth revolves around the Sun and we get 1/2 a day of light and 1/2 a day of night that we get a (1/2 globe-shaped) view of two different skys each day. (At this point I can only assume that TNT would let it remain as simple as that for our sake.) Astronomy buffs can verify this or correct me. In fact a 5th grader probably could (I barely remember Earth Science, sorry).

So we all might have two different views. I promise not to go on more about this but do yourself the favor of re-checking your primary refreshed view in your Telescope and star_data file after Midnight your time or NST.

Can anyone out there verify or refute this strange occurence? I read someone back had two different star_data files, too. Anyone, anyone?

EDIT: Yes, of course, I used the Find command. First thing.

Sorry was afk for a bit okay umm

Navar57: http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=navar572ys.swf

Mxytdvc: http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mxytdvc9pe.swf

trinity_infinity: http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image ... ity9wp.swf

anjuna: 1) http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anjuna18qr.swf
2) http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anjuna27bj.swf

If anyone else wants theirs, please just pm me your coords. (Just copy them from http://www.neopets.com/altador/astro.ph ... tar_data=1 page and paste, no formatting needed. )

Cranberry got yours will do it in a sec. :

darkfire :: Wow, you rock!

soymimi :: Here is a snippet of the post 1 thread back --

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