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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:36 pm 
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I think that actually makes the most sense. It's a history book to uncover what happened during the game, which the people of Altador mysteriously can't remember. Instead of repeating the plot in detail, we get a recap within the book while new things no one's been privy to are going on.


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But then why is the DF still in the Ruins of Maraqua?


Well, it wouldn't be the first time that TNT have placed something around the place that never gets used, and just sits around doing nothing until the next time they update that map. After all, that magical plushie is still sitting on the cloud in Faerieland. Or it was last time I checked.


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I think a lot of people are getting confused by the neopedia article and making things much more complicated than they are. We've established that the events in the video game have already occured. The Darkest faerie has been sealed off again by Fyora. As for the humber of remaining heroes, excluding the darkest faerie who's back at the bottom of Old Maraqua (again, probably because they hadn't thought about putting her elsewhere), there are 11 out of 12 heroes left. Nothing points to a mysterious 13th or that Jerdana is out of the picture.
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Current Location: Unknown (near the sea)
Founded by: The Twelve Heroes
Primary Ruler: King Altador
Council Members: The ten remaining heroes
Areas of Interest: Altador Coliseum, Archives, Hall of Heroes


King Altador is distinguished from being a normal council member as he is the primary ruler. When you exlude him and the Darkest faerie, that leaves all 10 remaining heroes still around.


I'm honestly not so sure. The way I see it, Altador is included in those 10 remaining heroes. But that's just me.

Also, I hate speculating - especially when there is absolutely no new information to go on - and I also haven't played the PS2 game (what, with living in Australia and all). But according to the TCG, Jerdana is imprisoned - hence the reason she's not around.

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Anyway, as I said, I haven't played the PS2 game, so I have no idea if Jerdana has been freed. But, if not, I would wager that it's kind of hard to rule a city if you're imprisoned somewhere.


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Huggles wrote:
I think that actually makes the most sense. It's a history book to uncover what happened during the game, which the people of Altador mysteriously can't remember. Instead of repeating the plot in detail, we get a recap within the book while new things no one's been privy to are going on.


I was thinking along those lines. That, while there is the actual game out there in which people stop the Darkest Faerie, we'd get to fill the pages of the Book to find out what was happening in the city of Altador during the time of the Dark Faerie's rise to power.

We all know that she is not in power right now, so we would theoretically be working backwards to not solve things that may possibly happen, but rather solve what has happened.

The book would also help us learn about each hero that is presented in the form of a statue, the motive for the Dark Faerie to turn against what she was once loyal to, the role of Jerdana, etc.

At least, I hope I'm not off my rocker on this.


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Yes, but the imprisonment of Jerdana and everything in the TCG are events that occured within the game, I.E. the past.

Edit: This was in response to Elurial, but Soymimi summed it up pretty well.


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Yes, but the imprisonment of Jerdana and everything in the TCG are events that occured within the game, I.E. the past.


...exactly why I said we'd be working backwards and learning about what happened during the Dark Faerie's rise to power, as opposed to solving events before they happened. We'd basically be getting a history lesson of Altador.


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Yes, but the imprisonment of Jerdana and everything in the TCG are events that occured within the game, I.E. the past.


Hence the reason why I noted that I hadn't played the game. I also have intentionally avoided reading plot summaries of the game in the event that it gets released in Australia - I would like the get the full enjoyment out of playing it, and that basically involves not knowing too much going in.


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soymimi wrote:
Huggles wrote:
I think that actually makes the most sense. It's a history book to uncover what happened during the game, which the people of Altador mysteriously can't remember. Instead of repeating the plot in detail, we get a recap within the book while new things no one's been privy to are going on.


I was thinking along those lines. That, while there is the actual game out there in which people stop the Darkest Faerie, we'd get to fill the pages of the Book to find out what was happening in the city of Altador during the time of the Dark Faerie's rise to power.

We all know that she is not in power right now, so we would theoretically be working backwards to not solve things that may possibly happen, but rather solve what has happened.

The book would also help us learn about each hero that is presented in the form of a statue, the motive for the Dark Faerie to turn against what she was once loyal to, the role of Jerdana, etc.

At least, I hope I'm not off my rocker on this.


No, I think you are probably right. To me this sounds like the most likely theory. It coincides with both the recap in the book and the neopedia article.


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Elurial, that's fine, but the plot/story in the game has already been detailed in the TCG. They're one and the same, so you can't use the TCG as a basis for what might happen when it already has in the game.


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Huggles wrote:
Yes, but the imprisonment of Jerdana and everything in the TCG are events that occured within the game, I.E. the past.


How does that effect the theory? I agree that the entry reads that Altador IS included, but we've been arguing this for far too long with no way of finding the truth just yet. Any chance we could leave it at either theory being possable and drop it until we have anything else to back up either opinion?


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Huggles wrote:
Edit: This was in response to Elurial, but Soymimi summed it up pretty well.


Oh, I thought it was in response to mine. Haha, I was like... "I just said that? :("


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Huggles wrote:
Elurial, that's fine, but the plot/story in the game has already been detailed in the TCG. They're one and the same, so you can't use the TCG as a basis for what might happen when it already has.


As I said, I did state that I hadn't played the game. And TNT don't always play by the rules with the TCG. After all, Jerdana and Siyana have been around since the first release.

But I accept that the TCG and the game happened in the past, and I am happy to leave it at that.


Anywho, I do like the idea that this plot is basically going to involve uncovering the history of Altador and its heroes. It's something different. And as someone noted before, it might be a way to tie the histories of a few nations together. Or not.


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In the Book of Ages it says
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Within this tome you will find the recorded history of the twelve heroes and how they came to form the Kingdom of Altador. Protect this knowledge well, for it may be all that is left if Jerdana's magic fails and the betrayer succeeds....


But the thing is, we don't find any recorded history. So the question is, why not? And is it going to show up later? Who would put it there? If we later find that more of the book is written in, that means that someone present day must know everything and is writing it down now. Either that or it was written in invisible ink that is slowly showing up now.
On the other hand, it could be that before they could write anything more than the prologue, Jerdana's magic failed and we're not going to get anything from the book. Somehow I doubt that though, because if TNT bothered to put the book there for us to find, I think it's going to play a part in the plot. So, I guess my main question is: who's going to write the rest of the book?


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Has anybody realized tat the person from all the club pictures is a blue quiggle. Theres a chance that means something

After observing the map, I noticed in the front little area of Altador, there a a few buildings that look like other items. One looks like a healing potion, another a spotted negg.


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Has anybody realized tat the person from all the club pictures is a blue quiggle. Theres a chance that means something

After observing the map, I noticed in the front little area of Altador, there a a few buildings that look like other items. One looks like a healing potion, another a spotted negg.


Tnt probably got lazy. Or its the quiggles cousin. OR its the same one maybe? Sneekin around...

And I figure the stores are just fill-ins. Like, a potion shop, negg shopp, ext. Or maybe thell be turned into real stores later.


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I have personal theories as to Altador's connections to other nations. I've mentioned before that I think it's connected with Maraqua, possibly used to be a neighboring country. And I also think that it's connected with Meridell somehow. All I need is this page:

http://www.neopets.com/medieval/plot_bfm.phtml?current_day=15

In this page alone, you see Psellia and the Darkest Faerie. But the question I have is, who are the other two characters with the Darkest Faerie?

K, so I know I'm new, I could be wrong. Someone let me know if I'm way off or if these are possibilities.

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I know that one person already mentioned this page in the past, but it was in reference to something else ;)

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oooo...wait...scratch that...that couldn't be the darkest faerie...she doesn't have the right type of wings...so who is she?


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