Lost Desert Plot Disc #82 (Summary in First Post)

anjuna · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:27 pm

crashbash wrote:

I'm pretty sure that when this came up in discussion before it was said to be part of the Hannanh Plot, nothing more than that, it shouldn't be used as a reference for the current plot as it is only a shell for the comic.

But, but, but .. I know what people mentioned before, however has anyone bothered to actually read and think about it, what is being said in it and what is going on? Was the Hannah Plot really that similar with tombs and glyphs and such? Are we all hands, down thinking this is nothing? Or is there anyone out there care to at least ponder significance?

EDIT: Well I did confirm that *part* of it is a template, but according to the new quotes, it still could be part of THIS plot, since i messed around with the link and found unfinished quotes identical to those on Chapter 1, Page 1, so it very well could be material; maybe we should keep that in mind? (Compare http://swf.neopets.com/desert/ldp/comic ... itemID=105
vs.
http://swf.neopets.com/desert/ldp/comic ... _ld_v3.swf)

EDIT 2: Meaning, the quotes, not necessarily the pictures, since the pictures to not appear to change, but the quotes certainly coincide with the current plot, except for that last one (thus far?)

IanB · **Posts:** 331 **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:25 pm

anjuna wrote:

Noteka2015 wrote:

But I am confused as to what IanB means when he says he doesn't know what the legitimate way to get the passcode was....I thought that was the scroll.

Ahh, I see, I believe IanB meant "source code" of the web page, though I could be wrong in my assumption as well?

Your assumption is quite correct, "source code" is exactly what I meant - sorry if I caused confusion.

When I said I didn't know the legitimate way I mean't just that. Although I finished my tablet, clicked the correct scroll etc, I don't recall taking any notice of the text that appeared because I'd already seen the correct phrase for my symbol (Fer) on this forum!

supRNurs · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:53 pm

Noteka2015 wrote:

sn00t wrote:

I wonder if the fact that one needn't have completed the tablet in order to follow the plot thus far is key to the fact that the fortune teller's statement regarding the tablet has remained. In other words, maybe her statement is directed towards those who have not yet completed the tablet, not toward people who have.

How so? One had to complete the tablet to get the prophecy to tell it to the statue to be able to access the Repository. Right?

Or was the only thing necessary to access the rep reading the scroll with the symbol from under the statue?

If it's the latter I spent two days getting my tablet completed for no reason. I thought I needed it to get to the Rep.

Actually, I believe the only thing necessary to enter the repository was to read the scroll corresponding to your statue's symbol. It had to be the last scroll you read. Of course, then you had to choose the correct phrase according to that scroll.

IanB wrote:

supRNurs wrote:

IanB wrote:

Pia321 wrote:

Yes, but it also says something like "gains a little insight" - what does that mean?
Dictionary.com defines insight as:
The capacity to discern the true nature of a situation; penetration.
The act or outcome of grasping the inward or hidden nature of things or of perceiving in an intuitive manner.

so, you gain a little bit of that.

Thank you. I do understand the definition of these words but I can see that my "what does that mean?" was open to misinterpretation, sorry. What I really meant was - exactly what "insight" are we getting from 'reading the wrong scroll'? None that I can see, so why put it there? Perhaps to mislead (although goodness knows we don't need any more of that!) or perhaps as a clue that something actually is happening?
Just a thought.

Oh, sorry. :oops:

As far as I know, nobody has been able to determine any benefit of reading any of the other scrolls.

IanB wrote:

Edit:I have certainly seen posts here from people who have accessed the repo without completing their tablet so it isn't that. Was it needed to get the passcode to the repo(?), I have no idea - I believe that the list was obtained from the code and I don't know anyone who actually got the code from the game by "legitimate" means (I don't even know how the codes should really have been obtained!), so perhaps there was something there from completing it?

The list actually comes from correlating the title of your scroll (the actual item scroll) to one of the passphrases.

cokaluna wrote:

Okay,
I know i'm new here but i've been trying to figure this out too. If the faerie statue wants a prophecy, could it not be the one that prince Jazan is talking about also?

Welcome to our madness!

Yes, it could be. Both could also be one and the same with the prophecy mentioned on the Qasalan Tablets TCG card. And I suppose our prophecy could be a part of that one as well.

anjuna wrote:

I am just not so sure now. I mean that is Masila, and there is also mention of a heart of something at Terror Mountain, but the key to the heart is "in a tomb with strange markings" (reminds me of the Deserted Tomb at Geraptiku. And yesterday when I visited, I got a "different" message than usual. Usually I am greated by a fierce dragon. This time I saw a "treasure box" but the comment was that someone already found it.

Am I way off here, but I mentioned both the possible links to Terror Mountain and Mystery Island before, and I think someone mentioned in the original LDP, Brucey B had to find his way back the the desert via one?

http://swf.neopets.com/desert/ldp/comic ... wh3912.swf << something like that to *me* is a template, but I do not know much about it .. the other link was imbedded in the HTML source code of the CURRENT comic for no apparent reason?

What you see is a portion of the last plot, HATIC. Several splits back there is a link to that actual comic with the exact same thing on it. The only thing different is the LDP header and footer. They simply converted those and are using that comic as a template, as you suggest.

Yes, back in the day, there was a direct link to the desert through a crack or something.. if I remember correctly.

The Crystal Ball TCG card is also part of the HATIC plot.

anjuna · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:02 pm

supRNurs: thanks for all the clarification re: HATIC .. guess i will just keep looking in other places .. will let anyone know if i find something not mentioned before ..

so does that mean the spinning scroll next to the Fortune Teller is probably also nothing? seems odd it is there at all?

there must be something we missed with the tablet and possibly a new translation to Nuria? why else would the fortune teller not be updated? why is the spinning scroll next to her? and, she as well as the comic symbols keep redirecting us back to our tablets?

must we go back into the darn temple of a kajillon tombs?

anjuna's latest *very much on topic and wish could be posted here* Question about the next thing we should be doing :: http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 910#470910)

supRNurs · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:23 pm

anjuna wrote:

supRNurs: thanks for all the clarification re: HATIC .. guess i will just keep looking in other places .. will let anyone know if i find something not mentioned before ..

so does that mean the spinning scroll next to the Fortune Teller is probably also nothing? seems odd it is there at all?

there must be something we missed with the tablet and possibly a new translation to Nuria? why else would the fortune teller not be updated? why is the spinning scroll next to her? and, she as well as the comic symbols keep redirecting us back to our tablets?

must we go back into the darn temple of a kagillon tombs?

The spinning scroll is very odd. We just never could figure out what it meant. It wasn't there at the beginning of the plot. There was a lot of other stuff there that looked like the artist may have been using it as a reference. That was posted here, and discussed. As we know, TNT has been known to lurk around these parts from time to time. Suddenly the image was changed, and the ben scroll was added. Any ideas?

Yes, the teller has been pointing us back to the tablet for a very long time. That part of her message has not been updated, even when the other part has (which hasn't been very often.) Also, the Nuria statue - well, she isn't a statue on the TCGs, and it may just be my experience with previous plots, but I get the feeling that we'll somehow have to "release" her.

You have very good questions. I'm sorry I just don't know what else to try to help answer them. I'm open to any and all suggestions, though.

Edit: New comic is up!

Elric · **Posts:** 603 **Joined:** Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:31 am

New chapter is up, along with the news!

Rayen · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:34 pm

News was just updated! More on the plot!

*Edit*

oops, someone beat me to it :oops:

oh well, it's still a good installment! I love the two headed scorchio!

and I want the new Jetsam avvie!

Quicksilver · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:42 pm

anjuna wrote:

crashbash wrote:

I'm pretty sure that when this came up in discussion before it was said to be part of the Hannanh Plot, nothing more than that, it shouldn't be used as a reference for the current plot as it is only a shell for the comic.

But, but, but .. I know what people mentioned before, however has anyone bothered to actually read and think about it, what is being said in it and what is going on? Was the Hannah Plot really that similar with tombs and glyphs and such? Are we all hands, down thinking this is nothing? Or is there anyone out there care to at least ponder significance?

EDIT: Well I did confirm that *part* of it is a template, but according to the new quotes, it still could be part of THIS plot, since i messed around with the link and found unfinished quotes identical to those on Chapter 1, Page 1, so it very well could be material; maybe we should keep that in mind? (Compare http://swf.neopets.com/desert/ldp/comic ... itemID=105
vs.
http://swf.neopets.com/desert/ldp/comic ... _ld_v3.swf)

EDIT 2: Meaning, the quotes, not necessarily the pictures, since the pictures to not appear to change, but the quotes certainly coincide with the current plot, except for that last one (thus far?)

First of all the whole thing is a templet and the pictures are just place holders, which the part you didn't mess around with, I think you meant to say you copied and pasted out of the source, proves because they're the quotes that are replacing the old...

Second, it definitely isn't part of the plot because the same template was used for the CoM comic...

http://swf.neopets.com/water/plot_com/c ... com_v7.swf
along with the quote factor...
http://swf.neopets.com/water/plot_com/c ... itemID=104

supRNurs · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:42 pm

Well, there's our prophecy!

So we have the Spirit of the Ruins and the Ring of the Lost and now it looks like we need to save Jazan as well as Sakhmet. hmmmm...

jojoneo · **Posts:** 457 **Joined:** Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:59 am

Says there is a new Neopian Times, but links to the old issue. I was hoping for something interesting in the editorials.

Interesting twist about Jazan. Almost warms my heart. Now, how do we get those two kids together? Well it would've been easier before he released the two headed, fire breathing scorchio!

So could the prophecy be something like...

"when true love unites, qasala will live again"

EDIT: Nevermind, tried it, nothing, nada, except another good toss into the sand!

Jasujo · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:45 pm

Okay, just read the new comic. If Jazan forces Amira to wed him, it won't lift the curse, though, because it won't be true love. Unless he thinks in time she'll come to love him or such? Or maybe being king of an undead city for so long has hardened him and he's forgeotten the entire prophecy and only thinks he needs to wed her?

Did anyone else think Tomos was super grumpy in the beginning of this part? lol

anjuna · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:49 pm

Ok I am not a programmer, but noticed something odd in my madness of Viewing Source

each page of the comic has more than 1 version.

Is this normal for there to be layers? Or is there something hidden in each page? A link to a clue?

For example, I notced that when I right-click on various parts of most of the pages, I find 2 different versions, labelled something like [index1] and [index2] (yes, separate instances) or another page might have both [index3] and [index6] "linked" to the page overall. On one page I even found 3, but now I can't seem to click in the same place to get that anymore.

Anyone know anything about coding, care to comment?

jojoneo · **Posts:** 457 **Joined:** Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:59 am

And another thing...

you think just maybe Nabile could've shared with us how she "used her brain" and figured out how to translate the stones!

Quote:

Did anyone else think Tomos was super grumpy in the beginning of this part? lol

LOL, yes I did, but you know how boys can be when you drag them away from their new toys!!

deadlypker · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:55 pm

Jasujo wrote:

Okay, just read the new comic. If Jazan forces Amira to wed him, it won't lift the curse, though, because it won't be true love. Unless he thinks in time she'll come to love him or such? Or maybe being king of an undead city for so long has hardened him and he's forgeotten the entire prophecy and only thinks he needs to wed her?

Did anyone else think Tomos was super grumpy in the beginning of this part? lol

what if amira isn't the real princess? What if jazan doesn't have to marry the princess, it only has to be a descendent. What if Nabile is the true princess and Tomos the decedant. Finally, I knew it would come true, I knew it!!!! :evil:

Elric · **Posts:** 603 **Joined:** Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:31 am

deadlypker wrote:

Jasujo wrote:

Okay, just read the new comic. If Jazan forces Amira to wed him, it won't lift the curse, though, because it won't be true love. Unless he thinks in time she'll come to love him or such? Or maybe being king of an undead city for so long has hardened him and he's forgeotten the entire prophecy and only thinks he needs to wed her?

Did anyone else think Tomos was super grumpy in the beginning of this part? lol

what if amira isn't the real princess? What if jazan doesn't have to marry the princess, it only has to be a descendent. What if Nabile is the true princess and Tomos the decedant. Finally, I knew it would come true, I knew it!!!! :evil:

That would explain the pic in the palace that looks like Nabile! Great point!

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