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 Post subject: Lost Desert Plot Discussion #41 (Summary in First Post)
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Continue with all the plotting here :)

Previous thread: http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21001

- The plot
- The Fortune Teller
- The Temple of One-Thousand Tombs
- Repository
- Gift Shop of One-Thousand Trinkets - Currently has no use.


Here is an example of a map: http://tim.arlott.com/jas/tombmap.jpg
It is Jasujo's map that she made using the grid method posted by Cerise. Of course, there are many methods, this is just one to give you an idea.

Here is a handmade map by XenaAndGabrielle: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/ ... ap-XaG.jpg
with an explanation of how she goes about it here.

Here is another map made by Twisted Sanity, who uses yet another mapping method: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/te ... ombmap.gif

Known Facts:

The temple was found through a banner.

Everyone's tomb, doors, and phrases are different.

Your tomb is the same to you each time you enter it.

All passages seem to be two way. You should be able to return to the room you came from. The door may not be in the same position, but one of the doors will return you. Some passages loop and may lead you to the same rooms over and over. Not everyone has a loop in their tomb, but if you do it's okay, just mark it and continue mapping.

There are three library doors and one statue room in each tomb. In the libraries, you can read a scroll, but the effects haven't been found yet. The statue asks for a prophecy, but the correct one hasn't been found yet.

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The libraries should have these scrolls:

astral - Ra, Set, Ahn, Kha
maze - Ben, Lat, Saf, Nem
river - Fer, Djo, Tep, Kar

Here is an image posted my mcgeorge on neoitems displaying all the symbols and scrolls with their names.

Here is a post listing the item descriptions of each of the scrolls. The descriptions describe which library each scroll is in.

There are about 85 rooms, 5 doors in each room (a few might have a blank wall), and a total of around 425 doors.

If you read a scroll, you can't enter for 12 hours. If you get caught in a trap, you can't enter for 1 hour and your pet may temporarily be turned to a pile of sand. If you tell an incorrect prophecy to the faerie statue, you can't enter again for about 40 minutes.

There are 6 door colors and 4 door shapes. The riddles will only tell you the color and shape of the door you need.

Shapes:
A humble portal of stone (rectangle) [just a regular old door]
Mouth of the river (triangle) [think about it ... the place where a river starts will look like a triangle ... because it starts flowing out]
The aspect of a star (pentagon) [5 sides to a standard star]
Window into the soul (oval) [your eyes are ovalish]

Colors:
Blinding radiance of the sun (yellow) [the sun]
Thunderous clouds obscuring the sky (black) [makes it dark]
The waking dawn on the dunes (red) [at dawn, thing all look red]
Banks of the mighty river (green) [everything is green on the banks]
Kingdom of the lightgiver (blue) [the sky is the sun's (lightgiver's) kingdom ... and it is blue]
Bright guardian of the night (silver) [The moon is sort of silverish]

The combination does not tell you which symbol you need, but does limit your search to 12 possible doors to find your statue in.

After you find the Nuria faerie statue and go back to your library and read the scroll with the symbol that was on the statue's base, your pet now understands it.

The fortune teller's phrase has changed to: "I see ancient pharaohs laid at rest." You supposedly need to visit her and see this before moving on.

Then if you play a game of Pyramids, at the end you should see a parchment on the bottom of your screen. This looks to be a clue to rooms as each column has a number, color, symbol, and shape.

If you go the room under the single dot that your parchment describes, you will get an RE which gives you a dirty stone piece. Take that to the toy repair shop on Terror Mountain and you get a piece on your tablet. If you then go to the fortune teller, her phrase is changed:

"So... you've returned," she says. "Something remarkable is happening. I am receiving many images in my crystal ball, images of strange, distant places..."

"...yet I can't make out these images just now. Perhaps something will appear soon. You may view the Mysterious Tablet if you wish."


If the dirty stone piece that you get from your trapped room ends up being destroyed by Donny at the Toy Repair Shop (he sometimes has trouble cleaning it for some reason), then all you will need to do is go back to the temple immediately. Do not wait. You will receive a new piece that you can bring to Donny to try cleaning up.

A while after the first piece of your tablet is filled in, the fortune teller changes to this clue: "I see debris on a frigid battlefield."

That leads you to play a game of Snow Wars (not the flash game, the original HTML Battleship-like one), after which you should find your second parchment. On this one, you find the door under the double dots.

After the second piece, the fortune teller changes again, "I see a rivalry of five."

That leads you to place a bet and feed one of the poogle in Poogle Races to get the third parchment once you've placed your bet. On the third parchment, you find the door under the triple dots.

After the third piece, the fortune teller gives the next clue: "I see fortunes cast upon the waters."

This leads you to go to the Underwater Cavern. Simply go fishing, and you'll find the fourth parchment. You'll find the door under the four dots.

For the fifth clue, go to the fortune teller and get this message: "I see countless eyes." Then lose at Potato Counter and that gives you your next parchment. Find the door under the five dots and you're on your way.

On the sixth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see a great deal of fun." If you spin the Wheel of Mediocrity, then try to spin a second time, you'll get your sixth parchment. Find the door under the six dots to get the next piece.

On the seventh clue, the fortune teller will tell you "I see a rule that must be broken" Go to the Lever of Doom, and a pull will get you the parchment. You must have 100np on hand. The door under the seven dots will get your next piece.

The eighth clue, you are told: "Today's lotto number is [numbers]" Go to Kreludor, and fill in the Mining Corp. with the numbers, different to everybody. This'll get you the eighth piece of parchment, which will tell you which room to go to beneath the eight dot header.

For the ninth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see a tournament that rolled on." Go to The Krawk Island Deckball Championships. Then click on Players. If you scroll down, you will see Prince Jazan's name. Click on it and you will get your parchment. Follow the door under nines dots.

For the tenth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see a chia resting by a tree." Have one of your pets take a Tiki Tour. Your parchment should be on the first page after you sign up for the tour. Find the door under the ten dots.

For the eleventh clue, the fortune teller says: "I see you lost in the darkness." Play a game of Fetch while seeking any Faerie Dust (refresh the request screen until you get that for your quest.). Your parchment should appear at the lose screen (you do not need to find the item). Find the door under the eleven dots.

For the twelvth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see you giving into your dreams." Wish for a Hieroglyph Fragment at the Wishing Well and make a donation. Follow the door under the twelve dots.

Also, it seems the new clues are coming out at about 1:30 and 7:30 NST, every six hours.

Completed your Tablet?
Once you have done that, go and look at the first 3 comics for the plot. The symbols are embedded within the comic! Here's a list of where you can find the appropriate symbols:

LAT & FER (cup & paw) on 1-1
KHA (fish) on 1-2
SAF (the Y-thing) on 1-3
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AHN (ankh) on 2-1
SET & RA (pillar & sun) on 2-2
TEP (eye) on 2-3

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DJO (2 flags) on 3-1
BEN (chick) on 3-2
NEM (river) on 3-3
KAR (leaf) on 3-4

If you hover over them, you can click it. Click them in the order as you see on your tablet, reading LEFT TO RIGHT, Top row to Bottom Row. If a symbol comes up 2x in a row, click it twice. 3x, click it 3x. (etc) Once you have done that correctly, a pop up will come up. It redirects you to the tablet, with an avatar + a translation to what the tablet means. Surprise, surprise, everyone's translation's are slightly different!

Now, go to the room that had the faerie in it. Tell it the translation that you were given to the statue. At the next screen, be sure to scroll all the way down. It's a bit long, but it's interesting.

Once you have submitted your translation, you will end back up in front of the statue. You can get out of that room by submitting an incorrect translation. You'll incur the regular lockout time and then start back in front of the tomb.

The Lost Desert map has changed and Sakhmet as well as other places have disappeared.

Sometime later, the Fortune Teller lets you in to a little gossip she's overheard.

She calls out to you again as you turn to leave. "Oh! I almost forgot. I heard something about a few of Princess Amira's ministers, who were outside of Sakhmet when it vanished. They're going to get that new scroll repository finished so that they can use it as a library, and try to figure out how to bring Sakhmet City back. I don't know when the project is starting, though."

The Repository!
Now if you look at the bare Lost Desert Map, on the TOP RIGHT corner you'll see footprints leading to the Repository. Click it!

You'll be faced with Grarrl guards and will be prompted to say something to them. You'll be given a few options. Depending on what symbol was on your faerie's statue, select one of the following:

AHN: "I'm here with extra charcoal for the caterers"
SAF: "I'm here with the royal census. You're not a Ruki! Get out of my way!"
KHA: "I don't have sand that color yet! Don't you know who I am?"
BEN: "I'm here to prepare food for your Elephante workers."
DJO: "Did that Anubis get its 15-minute break yet?"
LAT: "This sand contains traces of faeryllium. To the laboratory!"
FER: "You guys should drink more water before you get heat stroke."
RA: "That tent over there has insufficient ventilation. I'll have to write you a citation"
SET: "I know I'm late, but I'm here to deliver an important royal message"
KAR: "I'm the food specialist for your herbivore workers"
TEP: "I'm here to chronicle the construction of this repository."
NEM: "Have you thought about triple-glazing your windows?? It's fun and functional!"

The responses correspond with the name of the scroll that matches your faerie statue symbol. If you select the wrong response, you'll have a 30 minute wait before you can try again.

(NOTE: Make sure you have READ your understood scroll from the appropriate library in the tombs beforehand and it was the last scroll you've read. Otherwise your correct option will NOT show up.)

Once you have selected the correct option, you'll meet up with a nice-mannered character who asks you to get a diggin' to help dig out the repository!

Do it. And you'll get a handful of sand (and possibly other goodies!). However, you'll need to take it back to civilization before trying again. Time to retry is based off agility, so use your fastest Neopet.

Possible waiting times:
Agility: 0-30 every 3 hours
Agility: 31-45 every 2.5 hours
Agility: 46-60 every 2 hours
Agility: 61-75 every 1.5 hours
Agility: 75+ every hour

In the end 104,034 handfuls of sand unearthed the Respository, but someone obviously forgot space for scrolls when planning the monolith.


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I just hope they don't end up in the bowels of the Temple of 1000 Tombs. It will take them days to get out of there. And if they find themselves in a passage blocked by a large, oval boulder on one side, and poisonous gas on the other side... *shakes head and sighs*



The Suppository Continues!!!


LOL Let's just hope they don't find any scrolls and decide to read them - goodness knows the wait that gets you has caused many of us to avoid them!

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Dang, and after I went thru all that trouble to figure out the code myself....

Oh well, at least i learned a little

Oh, not sure if this has been posted by anyone yet (haven't quite finished reading all the new posts..)

I went to Chapter 1, and got this lovely surprise:

NEW BATTLEDOME CHALLENGER!!!

Qasalan Mummy will be waiting for you in the BATTLEDOME!!!


Yes, it has been found. I believe it is a defenders of neopia challenger. Maybe one of the mods can add this to the ever-growing first post, so others will know about it as well. (Or at least know that we already know about it ;))

Edit 2: fixing the quote


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Does anyone else think Amira doesn't look to scared at Jazan's threat? She looks more like she is confused or has stomach issues. Now run with that Elric!

(Yo, Jasujo. I accidenly left this message at the same time as the split. Sorry if that causes trouble.)


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I assume people have guessed that the 104,034 could be coordinates in a picture, right?

It corresponds to Sutek's Tomb in the Lost Desert map, but of course, it could all be just random nothingness.


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Does anyone think we will have to find a switch in our temples?


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For those that don't know how chapter 7 was found, all they did was right click on the trap image on the news page and got the numbers from the end of it, then put where the numbers are meant to go in the source code for the other chapters, just changing the chapter number as well.

Guess TNT will be releasing the next news with an, "Oops, sorry we forgot to release it and because of that chapter 8 will be late".

I am off to get dressed and go to the dentist! lol


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I assume people have guessed that the 104,034 could be coordinates in a picture, right?

It corresponds to Sutek's Tomb in the Lost Desert map, but of course, it could all be just random nothingness.


Someone posted that in the last split. There was some other random speculation about neopedia entries that are from a previous plot, but that was about as far as it went. Feel free to check and see if you can find something we missed!

Edit: typo


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-theorizes- Maybe they ARE coordinates! Of pixels! Maybe there's a secret clicky thing that's exactly one pixel large. That'd be annoying but I'll check Lost Desert map, 1000 tombs, someone check the repository. I don't have it. >_>

Or... the new shops map. xD Who knows.

EDIT: Oh dratted, maybe not. -sigh- -points to above post-


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Yes, it has been found. I believe it is a defenders of neopia challenger. Maybe one of the mods can add this to the ever-growing first post, so others will know about it as well. (Or at least know that we already know about it ;))


Darn, I thought for once I'd have info before everyone else :P At least I was one of the first ones to post that the fortune teller's message had changed to the first clue, way back when....

As for all the speculation about Tomos and Nabile...I think the Lost Desert TCG cards make it pretty clear that they've just stumbled across the temple and its various traps, and will get to spend time wandering thru it the same way we did (poor things)

The repository--It sounds to me like the engineers built it solid, instead of hollow. That's why there's no entrance or room inside, there's no "inside" to get to. I'm guessing they'll just have to find somewhere else to work out of.

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Does anyone else think Amira doesn't look to scared at Jazan's threat? She looks more like she is confused or has stomach issues. Now run with that Elric!

(Yo, Jasujo. I accidenly left this message at the same time as the split. Sorry if that causes trouble.)


(It's all good. :) )

I noticed that, too. It looked like she got distracted and watched some floaters (Azumanga Daioh reference ;) floaters = those little black spots you see at times lol).


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I think I might have a theory. Forgive me if it's already been suggested. Maybe we have to play a game and find something like another parchment to find a room in the Temple to get inside the repository. Huh? Huh? That's the bast I can come up with but maybe Neopets will be more creative than that. Tell me what ya'll think.


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-theorizes- Maybe they ARE coordinates! Of pixels! Maybe there's a secret clicky thing that's exactly one pixel large. That'd be annoying but I'll check Lost Desert map, 1000 tombs, someone check the repository. I don't have it. >_>

Or... the new shops map. xD Who knows.

EDIT: Oh dratted, maybe not. -sigh- -points to above post-


No, seriously - check and see if you can find something we missed! No one has checked the new shops map for sure.


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Jasujo wrote:
Skynetmain wrote:
Does anyone else think Amira doesn't look to scared at Jazan's threat? She looks more like she is confused or has stomach issues. Now run with that Elric!

(Yo, Jasujo. I accidenly left this message at the same time as the split. Sorry if that causes trouble.)


(It's all good. :) )

I noticed that, too. It looked like she got distracted and watched some floaters (Azumanga Daioh reference ;) floaters = those little black spots you see at times lol).


You know those 'floaters' are the first signs of major eye troubles. Maybe Amira just couldn't see the danger she was in.


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Finally Chp.7 is up.

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...hmm i saw it and then went to the fourtune teller and now it's gone. What are they playing at?


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Well, I've got to leave now, but I must say that I'm awfully suspicious of the tattoos on Tomos & Nabile's arms.


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