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 Post subject: TNT stealing ideas from Disney?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:20 am 
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So after a long hiatus, I'm back, fellow PPTers.

I'm noticing more and more with TNT's plot ideas that they're ripping off ideas from Walt Disney Inc. For example, having read into a bit of the backstory, the Lost Desert plot, as well as its characters, are reminiscent of Disney's "Alladin" (anyone else notice the fez on the blumaroo?!) And basically everyone knows how much the Maraqua plot ripped off parts of Pirates of the Carribean.

Now, while Neopets, Inc. and Disney have a partnership together, I still think TNT better shape up and use their noggins...because it looks like they're walking the fine line of copyright infringement


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Well, to be honest, those aren't Disney's stories. Those stories are far older than the movies put out by Disney and you will find bits and pieces of them all over from books to movies to cartoons to video games.


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Half of the disney movies are based off of previous pieces of literature :P


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I think though, you can consider them as homages to the material than ripping it off.

Besides Stan in GTU is far more of a Aladdin-homage than the other characters in the Lost Desert.


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I think they do it as little spoofs that give the plots a once upon a time feel. :)


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But Battle for Meridell had an original plotline, didn't it?


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Rofl! You make it sound as if Disney was a bastion of originality. Really, it's quite silly, especially considering the various "worlds" that exist on Neopia and the real cultures and myths they are based upon. You can't take one step without tripping over a cliche when it comes to Neopets plots, and cliches are cliche because they have been beaten into our brains time and time again.


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Muse wrote:
I'm noticing more and more with TNT's plot ideas that they're ripping off ideas from Walt Disney Inc. For example, having read into a bit of the backstory, the Lost Desert plot, as well as its characters, are reminiscent of Disney's "Alladin" (anyone else notice the fez on the blumaroo?!)


Well, umm, hate to break it to you, but Aladdin started out as a book. n_n;;;; I think the book was called "Tales of Arabian Nights", but I can't be remember...

Disney bases most of their movies off of books...

'Cept they change the endings and make them all happy...like in the little mermaid...and the hunchback of Notre Dame...


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Lain wrote:
Muse wrote:
I'm noticing more and more with TNT's plot ideas that they're ripping off ideas from Walt Disney Inc. For example, having read into a bit of the backstory, the Lost Desert plot, as well as its characters, are reminiscent of Disney's "Alladin" (anyone else notice the fez on the blumaroo?!)


Well, umm, hate to break it to you, but Aladdin started out as a book. n_n;;;; I think the book was called "Tales of Arabian Nights", but I can't be remember...

Disney bases most of their movies off of books...

'Cept they change the endings and make them all happy...like in the little mermaid...and the hunchback of Notre Dame...


The original title, reading the preface from an old (1947 illustrated by Maxfield Parrish) version of The Arabian Nights, is Tales of a Thousand and One Nights

And yes, Disney borrows, Neo borrows ... just about anything and everything is borrowed from something else.


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The original title, reading the preface from an old (1947 illustrated by Maxfield Parrish) version of The Arabian Nights, is Tales of a Thousand and One Nights


Yeah, sorry, I couldn't remember. :oops:


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Muse wrote:
So after a long hiatus, I'm back, fellow PPTers.

I'm noticing more and more with TNT's plot ideas that they're ripping off ideas from Walt Disney Inc. For example, having read into a bit of the backstory, the Lost Desert plot, as well as its characters, are reminiscent of Disney's "Alladin" (anyone else notice the fez on the blumaroo?!) And basically everyone knows how much the Maraqua plot ripped off parts of Pirates of the Carribean.

Now, while Neopets, Inc. and Disney have a partnership together, I still think TNT better shape up and use their noggins...because it looks like they're walking the fine line of copyright infringement

You... just noticed? I mean seriously. A good month before the plot was even released, people in the "Unreleased items" thread, spent days chatting about the similarities between the plot and Disney's Alladin. Let's face it, neo hasn't been original since their first, comic plot.

I am no longer surprised by their pathetic attempts at a story line. I just play the wars for the trophies. Although, I didn't fight in the Meridell vs Kass war because I loved Kass and seeing as we're all stuck playing the good guys this time around, I might fight in this one either. Prince Jazan is the best villain yet. He even beats Darigan and Kass in to the ground. Why is it, when Neo comes to the good looking villains, they screw up?


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Nothing is original anymore.


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to be honest, it would also be difficult in coming up with totally original plot ideas which would fit in with the younger target audience tnt seem to be aiming at lately...

so if things seem very fairy tale cliche, its because theres only so many ways you can really write a story for a general audience, without too much violence, issues ect.

i once read an essay on how there is no true originality in literature anymore because while authors may come up with sections which are a new outlook, alot of things are also influenced by the existing literature, and thus practically every literary work in minor ways, plagarises other works.

but even so, the similarities really made me pause, the shot of the palace for example, looks almost exactly like the one in the alladin movie. and i wouldn't know about the discussions, because i've been taking about a month break from neo (so i don't even know what this world tournament business is either).

and i guess mainly we will have to see what exactly the plot is like, tnt may have thrown a few spanners in the plot works, who knows? :P


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everconfused wrote:
Lain wrote:
Muse wrote:
I'm noticing more and more with TNT's plot ideas that they're ripping off ideas from Walt Disney Inc. For example, having read into a bit of the backstory, the Lost Desert plot, as well as its characters, are reminiscent of Disney's "Alladin" (anyone else notice the fez on the blumaroo?!)


Well, umm, hate to break it to you, but Aladdin started out as a book. n_n;;;; I think the book was called "Tales of Arabian Nights", but I can't be remember...

Disney bases most of their movies off of books...

'Cept they change the endings and make them all happy...like in the little mermaid...and the hunchback of Notre Dame...


The original title, reading the preface from an old (1947 illustrated by Maxfield Parrish) version of The Arabian Nights, is Tales of a Thousand and One Nights

And yes, Disney borrows, Neo borrows ... just about anything and everything is borrowed from something else.


Actually the original story was Arabian nights, a sultan had kidnapped a girl as his slave and had told her she could go if she could keep him entertained for 40 days and 40 nights, so she told him stories for that long one of them being Aladdin and the Magic Lamp. Disney butchered it by the way, for one thing the Djin gives out an infinite number of wishes and is not set free. Oh and the girl was set free after King Shayrar died. She actually ended up telling stories for 1000 and some days.

Neo's plot seems to be mixing a few of the stories together, There is the forigner from the story aladdin(replaced by Jafar in the movie) and the gangs from Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves


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Actually the original story was Arabian nights, a sultan had kidnapped a girl as his slave and had told her she could go if she could keep him entertained for 40 days and 40 nights, so she told him stories for that long one of them being Aladdin and the Magic Lamp. Disney butchered it by the way, for one thing the Djin gives out an infinite number of wishes and is not set free. Oh and the girl was set free after King Shayrar died. She actually ended up telling stories for 1000 and some days.

Neo's plot seems to be mixing a few of the stories together, There is the forigner from the story aladdin(replaced by Jafar in the movie) and the gangs from Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves


In the version I hear, the sultan went into this marrying spree to avenge himself againts his unfaithful sultana--that is to say, he'd marry one girl, spend a night with her, then cut off her head in the morning. The vizier's daughter--the man who had been getting the girls for the sultan--volunteered to marry the sultan and end the carnage. She told stories for 10001 nights, among of which was Aladdin, and managed to live that long because she would end the story at the most exciting part each night, forcing the sultan to keep her alive if he wanted to hear the rest of that story.

Too bloody for Neopets, IMHO--I mean, all the head-cutting? :o


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