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Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:24 pm

VirtualMetal wrote:In maritime law, flotsam applies to wreckage or cargo left floating on the sea after a shipwreck. Jetsam applies to cargo or equipment thrown overboard from a ship in distress and either sunk or washed ashore. The common phrase flotsam and jetsam is now used loosely to describe any objects found floating or washed ashore.

It's a common phrase, so it wasn't a specific Tolkein thing.
you have a good memory or a good googlematic :)

saying that it looks a lot like LOTR, is saying that it looks like the matrix too...

Neo, 1999, NpV2=Smith, Faerie Queen=Oracle, Tombola Guy=Morpheus,...

Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:46 pm

Jens wrote:saying that it looks a lot like LOTR, is saying that it looks like the matrix too...

Neo, 1999, NpV2=Smith, Faerie Queen=Oracle, Tombola Guy=Morpheus,...


Now that is just as beserk as it being like LOTR... How the heck is the Tombola Guy like Morpheus or the Faerie Queen like Oracle... And isn't NpV2 more like the person who made the Matrix (forgets name)...

And for the LOTR therory I mean I guess there are some similarities but the things you pointed out just aren't anything big. Its all coquiencidence... Idk it just seems like you are looking too far into it to me.

Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:48 pm

LoopyLauren wrote:
Jens wrote:saying that it looks a lot like LOTR, is saying that it looks like the matrix too...

Neo, 1999, NpV2=Smith, Faerie Queen=Oracle, Tombola Guy=Morpheus,...


Now that is just as beserk as it being like LOTR... How the heck is the Tombola Guy like Morpheus or the Faerie Queen like Oracle... And isn't NpV2 more like the person who made the Matrix (forgets name)...

And for the LOTR therory I mean I guess there are some similarities but the things you pointed out just aren't anything big. Its all coquiencidence... Idk it just seems like you are looking too far into it to me.


I think that was his point.

Certainly a lot of inspirations could have come from LOTR, but that doesnt make it bad.

I think that they are probably looking too far into it, as opposed to into you :P

Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:49 pm

LoopyLauren wrote:
Jens wrote:saying that it looks a lot like LOTR, is saying that it looks like the matrix too...

Neo, 1999, NpV2=Smith, Faerie Queen=Oracle, Tombola Guy=Morpheus,...


Now that is just as beserk as it being like LOTR... How the heck is the Tombola Guy like Morpheus or the Faerie Queen like Oracle... And isn't NpV2 more like the person who made the Matrix (forgets name)...

And for the LOTR therory I mean I guess there are some similarities but the things you pointed out just aren't anything big. Its all coquiencidence... Idk it just seems like you are looking too far into it to me.


It's not even coincidence. There are no similarities. :x

Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:49 pm

Mark wrote:
Ammer wrote:First of all the Pirate Shoyru on the avatar does not look a thing like Frodo, there are too many differences. Secondly the item 'Narsil' is not a Neopets item as I tried to search it on Neopets and Neoitems and found no results. Next the quotes which you used are simply a replacing game. You replaced the Neopet names with LOTR names. Finally, I am not sure about the blade factor for the Battle of Meridell and Lord Kass but viewing the following proof I would say there is no relation.

Maybe next time.


I'm not seeing the resemblance of the Pirate Shoyru and Frodo at all o_O

I don'T either... o_O

Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:23 pm

LoopyLauren wrote:
Jens wrote:saying that it looks a lot like LOTR, is saying that it looks like the matrix too...

Neo, 1999, NpV2=Smith, Faerie Queen=Oracle, Tombola Guy=Morpheus,...


Now that is just as beserk as it being like LOTR... How the heck is the Tombola Guy like Morpheus or the Faerie Queen like Oracle... And isn't NpV2 more like the person who made the Matrix (forgets name)...

And for the LOTR therory I mean I guess there are some similarities but the things you pointed out just aren't anything big. Its all coquiencidence... Idk it just seems like you are looking too far into it to me.
you got to admit that the Tombola Guy looks like Morpheus :P

Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:33 pm

Hmmm...the pirate shoyru, isn't doing it for me.

Saying that, Donna and Adam both like LoTR, why shouldn't they be inspired by it?

Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:27 pm

VirtualMetal wrote:In maritime law, flotsam applies to wreckage or cargo left floating on the sea after a shipwreck. Jetsam applies to cargo or equipment thrown overboard from a ship in distress and either sunk or washed ashore. The common phrase flotsam and jetsam is now used loosely to describe any objects found floating or washed ashore.

It's a common phrase, so it wasn't a specific Tolkein thing.


Moogum wrote:Oh yes, Flotsam and Jetsam are a chapter in the LOTR... Or the Hobbit... either way... (Yes, I know they are actual words before anyone points that out to me, I'm just saying that they are also the name of a chapter in a book).


Thanks for reading. Trust me, Donna and Adam were inspired by LoTR. If you were around from close to the beginning you would notice that more (this isn't even the first thread I've seen comparing the two).

Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:06 am

Moogum wrote:
VirtualMetal wrote:In maritime law, flotsam applies to wreckage or cargo left floating on the sea after a shipwreck. Jetsam applies to cargo or equipment thrown overboard from a ship in distress and either sunk or washed ashore. The common phrase flotsam and jetsam is now used loosely to describe any objects found floating or washed ashore.

It's a common phrase, so it wasn't a specific Tolkein thing.


Moogum wrote:Oh yes, Flotsam and Jetsam are a chapter in the LOTR... Or the Hobbit... either way... (Yes, I know they are actual words before anyone points that out to me, I'm just saying that they are also the name of a chapter in a book).


Thanks for reading. Trust me, Donna and Adam were inspired by LoTR. If you were around from close to the beginning you would notice that more (this isn't even the first thread I've seen comparing the two).


I'm not saying that there are any similarities at all, but they do like LOTR (it was in an Editorial).

Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:17 am

Jens wrote:
Moogum wrote:Oh yes, Flotsam and Jetsam are a chapter in the LOTR...
i thought they were names that are being used a lot for fishes orrrrr something like that?


The eels in The Little Mermaid. :)

Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:18 am

Jens wrote:
Moogum wrote:Oh yes, Flotsam and Jetsam are a chapter in the LOTR...
i thought they were names that are being used a lot for fishes orrrrr something like that?


Flotsam and Jetsam IIRC are also the name of Ursula's eels in Disney's The Little Mermaid...

Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:46 am

Ammer wrote:First of all the Pirate Shoyru on the avatar does not look a thing like Frodo, there are too many differences. Secondly the item 'Narsil' is not a Neopets item as I tried to search it on Neopets and Neoitems and found no results. Next the quotes which you used are simply a replacing game. You replaced the Neopet names with LOTR names. Finally, I am not sure about the blade factor for the Battle of Meridell and Lord Kass but viewing the following proof I would say there is no relation.

Maybe next time.


It's a joke, Ammer. XD Don't take it so personally.

Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:59 am

Well, maybe we should ask who at TNT has a thing for Frank Herbert? Pet - Usul, the name the fremen gave Paul Atreides - Usul

Books: Dune, on Neo, Nune

Though I've yet to see a sandworm on the site, unless the Snowager was once upon a time a sandworm and somehow mutated into the Snowager? :P Maybe a poison dart is the Neo equivalent of a hunter-seeker?

Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:30 am

When Morris and Borris jumped up on Kass, I was immediately reminded of Merry and Pippin with the cave troll (which, by the way, is a monster in the first Neoquest). XD

My pets names are Elvish, and I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the names on the site were, too.

Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:13 am

OmniIcyshelf wrote:
Ammer wrote:Next the quotes which you used are simply a replacing game. You replaced the Neopet names with LOTR names.


Thank you, Captain Obvious. This is simply to point out how similar the plotlines are in certain manners. This isn't accusing the Neopets Team of plagiarism or the inability to come up with original ideas.


There are many plot lines where someone good turns evil or someone evil turns good. If that's a similarity between LOTR and Neopets for you, than I guess you could say the same for Neopets and Digimon, Sailor Moon or any other super hero themed show.
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