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Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:04 pm
That is very likely, actually. And on that chance, I have to post my one MAJOR gripe about world challenges:
Codestones should NOT be one of the possible prizes for converting a map. The cheap petpet paintbrushes are booby-prize enough; a codestone woth 4K is just insulting. It's upsetting a lot of people who pay 400K or more for a full map (or even just work for 10+ hours to earn one). It's driving down map prices because people are afraid of wasting their money. It's just a bad idea, period.
Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:41 pm
XenaAndGabrielle wrote:Today: I see they have revamped the score reporting ... as well as new icons for things.
It doesn't seem that it is always reverse alphabetical order now for ties. The person who always seems to beat me is earlier in the alphabet, yet we are tied in this current competition and he is listed before me.
It seems to be regular alphabetical order today.
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Edit: it just switched back to reverse alphabetical order on one of my games, and regular alphabetical order still on the other game.
It seems to just be acting weird, now.
I don't think it matters a LOT... and I hope they didn't change anything.
At least on mootix drop, we're definitely getting 4 or 5 people getting map pieces even though only 3 should be. We're certain that it's the fact that when we have tied scores at the end of the hour, those tied scores all get map pieces and even split the NP...
Hope I made sense :p
As for the codestones issue... It is indeed stupid... It would be slightly better if you got red codestones instead... I hear there's a major shortage on two of the red codestones (as in fewer of those coming from the volcano)
Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:52 pm
If people were tied ... and they are still under that line they draw on the scores ... and they are still getting map pieces ...
Then that is great.
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If they want to put some sort of arbitrary order on it, though ... at least sort them by "highest score submitted" instead of some alphabetical order randomness.
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Edit: They didn't seem to award prizes that last hour. I am bummed, because I was #1 and about to win 4500 NPs.

Would have been my best win at these things.
Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:23 pm
I've gotten map pieces a few times even though I was below the line. My neomails were weird, though. They said "you came in 5th place in a world challenge," but also "because you placed in the top 4, you were awarded a picture piece."
I had something similar happen on Bilge Dice. I was trying for the streak trophy, and managed a streak of 7, but there were so many other people with 7 that I wasn't even close to a trophy position. However, the next day I checked my userlookup and I had a third place trophy. This leads me to believe it's a glitch that will be fixed (but I hope I don't lose my pretty streak trophy

).
Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:29 pm
Cranberry wrote:I've gotten map pieces a few times even though I was below the line. My neomails were weird, though. They said "you came in 5th place in a world challenge," but also "because you placed in the top 4, you were awarded a picture piece."
I had something similar happen on Bilge Dice. I was trying for the streak trophy, and managed a streak of 7, but there were so many other people with 7 that I wasn't even close to a trophy position. However, the next day I checked my userlookup and I had a third place trophy. This leads me to believe it's a glitch that will be fixed (but I hope I don't lose my pretty streak trophy

).
The neomails are kind of weird. It's generally that you tied with whoever got 4th place.
As for your trophy from bilge dice, what is displayed and what is awarded are two different lists or something... It's been that way for months *shrug*
Also there's a new update to the World Challenges (besides the pretty little icon). If you look at your world challenge scores, they've cleared them and are now grouping them by hour and showing the last 48 hours (instead of 24, I'm pretty sure).
Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:01 pm
Well, hour #2 of not awarding prizes for the world challenges. Something seems to be pretty broken.
Edit: I take that back ... one of my games has finally awarded prizes. The other is still "stuck"
Edit Edit: Yay! The other has been awarded as well! I won 9400 NPs! Wow!
Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:47 pm
If you get peices if you tie then that could be bad news. Prices could go down pretty rapidly, and if that does rare items coming from converting World Challenge Maps could become increasingly unlikely.
Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:46 pm
yagetme wrote:If you get peices if you tie then that could be bad news. Prices could go down pretty rapidly, and if that does rare items coming from converting World Challenge Maps could become increasingly unlikely.
I suppose with a name like "yagetme" ... you like the reverse alphabetical. winky winky.
That's why I think the tie breaker should be something like "highest score sent that hour" ... much less random than the alphabet.
I don't like the give everyone who tied a piece, either. It would be better than the random way they do it now, though.
Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:07 pm
No more ties.
Orders winners by players wins descending, loses ascending.
player1 wins 10 loses 2
player2 wins 10 loses 3
player3 wins 07 loses 3
etc
Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:32 pm
BoriYeltsin wrote:No more ties.
Orders winners by players wins descending, loses ascending.
player1 wins 10 loses 2
player2 wins 10 loses 3
player3 wins 07 loses 3
etc
Well that wouldn't apply to Mootix Drop where you could get a piece by playing just one game an hour...
Edit: I thought you were saying that's how it is now. And was thinking that was a revert to how it used to be and would be odd. I see it's still the same as always.
Edit2:
yagetme wrote:If you get peices if you tie then that could be bad news. Prices could go down pretty rapidly, and if that does rare items coming from converting World Challenge Maps could become increasingly unlikely.
Oh the irony
We hear so much whining about the inflation of stuff and now we've got some deflation complaints... combined with complaints about spreading the wealth.
Granted, I like getting lots of money from the WC... But really, only so many of us can get the money, and adding the 10-20% more people from ties isn't going to be a lot of people... It's fairer this way *shrug*
I also don't REALLY like the judging based on # wins/losses (instead of overall sum of +s and -s) for some reason, not sure...
But then I can't be sure what to say as to whether someone with 10 wins and 9 losses is better or worse than someone with 3 wins and 2 losses? I'd say the way it is now balances that problem.
Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:46 am
I just want to say that I'm kind of growing old quickly of people constantly playing the same games and smooshing people who are World Challengin for fun, like my self...It's sad and is all bleh like
Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:54 am
Those of us who are really good are using WC to make money. If you want to play the games just "for fun," you don't have to enter the WC. If you want to start making money off the competiton too, you'll have to get better at the games. Don't blame other people just because they're better than you.
Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:00 am
Hm, they've changed a bit on the ordering now. It no longer goes reverse-alphabetically (good news for most of you, but a small letdown for me since my username starts with "y"), but rather by random or by some other sequence that I can't see...
Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:08 am
I'm now 90% sure that ties no longer get pieces too.
I do use it to make money... I've made over 2 million in the last few weeks... which is insane for a "gamer." I could have made more if i had no life... I can relatively easily earn 20 pieces a day from mootix drop if I don't have anything that needs doing.
16 days of Mootix Drop for me * 350k average = 5.6 million... Not quite half my potential... Oh the shame...
Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:11 pm
XenaAndGabrielle wrote:yagetme wrote:If you get peices if you tie then that could be bad news. Prices could go down pretty rapidly, and if that does rare items coming from converting World Challenge Maps could become increasingly unlikely.
I suppose with a name like "yagetme" ... you like the reverse alphabetical. winky winky.

That's why I think the tie breaker should be something like "highest score sent that hour" ... much less random than the alphabet.
I don't like the give everyone who tied a piece, either. It would be better than the random way they do it now, though.
Hahahahahah... my name on neo begins with Anakin
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