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She'd planned all the books since she first thought up the Philosopher's Stone and already done the final page of Book Seven.

Dumbledore could not have made a horcrux. Horcrux making entails murder, and the very act of splitting your soul is regarded as heinous in the extreme. Dumbledore himself preaches on how a whole soul is in many ways superior to a fragmented one.

In short, no, it is quite impossible Rowling would let the saintly Dumbledore make a horcrux. Dumbledore is dead, period. Maybe Fawkes can revive him, but that's nothing to do with the horcrux.

But fawkes can die many times. if he just reborns himself, Dumbledore could do some crazy magic and make a different kind of horcrux, with fawkes as the sacrifice. He probably can do stuff that we don't know about. Like making a special type of horcrux.

And don't forget, Dumbledore is a painting, so he can talk and remember stuff and the like

Stop trying to say Dumbledores still alive. Just accept it for god's sake.

It's really getting on my nerves that people just won't give it up.

Just like Sirius is he's dead. Jo isn't bringing him back. End. Of. Discussion.

You're talking about a book where a person can split up his soul and place it in inanimate objects so that he can remain living even when his body is destroyed.

And you're telling us to quit theorizing about how other characters might be able to come back from the dead?

There's so much stuff in these books that is never what it appears to be. How about you stop claiming what JK is going to do and let people discuss what they want about who they want?

Different kind of horcrux? I some how doubt it. The entire point if a horcrux is that you commit a horrible sin to gain something selfish. Besides, Dumbledore knows when his time is up and would accept it. And what does Fawkes' abilities have to do with anything? Dumbledore is a wizard, not a phoenix.

I now want you to read what Spira said on the subject.

I rest my case.

A kill is a kill, whether it's for good or bad.

But I'm not defending that Dumbledore has a Horcrux. Because I don't even think he does. But you never know what JKR is going to do.

I just remembered. Fawkes is immune to Avada Kedavra and basilisks. :-/ Another reason that if Dumbledore had a Horcrux for it to be Fawkes.

I'm saying IF. I'm not saying that Fawkes is Dumbledore's Horcrux that he made 60-some years ago when he killed Grindelwald.

Haha, ironically, I don't even think that he has one either. I started off defending that IF he did, Fawkes would be it (in response to someone saying that he might have made Snape his, but I thought that a phoenix would make a much better horcrux). Now it's turned into defending the unpredicability of JKR.

Still, no matter what anyone says, until the next book comes out, no theories can be put down unless they are put down by her. So I hardly think you (compact disk) have the right to say this is the end of discussion. People are free to believe whatever they want until they are proven wrong by the books.

Yes, that is true. Just because I don't think Dumbledore has a Horcrux doesn't mean that other people can't think he does. I mean, J.K. Rowling only knows what's happening.

Fine, fine, BGryph, you're not in denial.

Note that this is not a statement of surrender.

Dumbledore offers Malfoy protection beyond his wildest dreams, right? Far and away, the highest-level protection we know of is Grimmauld Place, which you can only access if you get the word from the Secret-Keeper, Dumbledore. In other words, Dumbledore thinks he still has some way out of this. I don't know why, but it might simply have to do with abandoning hope. Or perhaps that McGonagall called for reinforcements...

EDIT: Ack. This means that the Order can't accept any new members, either. >,<

Well, in the words of Brendan Gleeson, "DYAAAAAARRRRGGGHH!" Which is basically short for "Fight on - continue the legacy - never surrender."

Now, about Voldemort's Horcruxes, I think it's quite possible that he made his sixth Horcrux before he even heard the prophecy. I doubt he was in any state to make a Horcrux after he killed Frank Bryce, anyway.

Dumbledore may not have even killed Grindelwald or whatever his name is. He defeated him, but that doesn't mean he killed him. He could have just stripped him of his powers or something or left him so weak he couldn't do anything. You never know.

MY FAVORITE BOOK IN THE ENTIRE SERIES.

SO FAR.

First off: everyone who hasn't read the interviews yet, go and read the one by Emerson and Melissa (from Mugglenet and the Leaky Cauldron, respectively). Clickie!

Second: I was right about Snape being a double agent, though, it seems, wrong about which way he was leaning towards. I assumed he was on Dumbledore's side.

Anyway.

One of the things I really liked about the book was, for one thing, how JKR really showed us how every character is multi-demensional. Like Fidds said on page 6, we see that while Narcissa Malfoy is a villainous character, she still loves her son. Draco's a slimy little jerk, but he can also be scared- he can cry, he can have feelings that are other than "Let's go kick mudbloods because we're better than them and the Dark Lord rocks!" I still don't like him, but I do understand him slightly more.

As for H/G- I'm actually fine with how Rowling didn't really show much of Harry/Ginny dating and everything- that's how I've always wanted the romance in the books to be. There, but understated.

The books are about Harry Potter, not the Love Life of Harry Potter the Very Romantic Wizard.

Romance is just one of the many sub-plots in the books.

Er, and sorry that I'm quoting people from like ten pages ago, but I haven't been online since the book was released (I was at camp- had the book delivered to me by Amazon, though they were a week late, so I just bought the Canadian edition when we went on Victoria on a shopping trip ( ) on the 17th), so I must catch up.

First off, because I forgot to quote it, I figure Dumbledore was blasted into the air by the AK because, perhaps, magic's more powerful if there's a strong emotion behind it? With Snape, it was hate- well, that's what it seemed like, anyway.

On the other hand, I'm torn between believing Snape's really evil or that he told Dumbledore about the Vow and that Dumbledore was asking Snape to kill him.

I really have no idea.



Dumbledore said that Voldemort wouldn't know if one of the Horcruxes was destroyed/stolen. Remember, he didn't know about the diary until Malfoy told him.

If Regulus abandoned the DEs, that was why he was killed, most likely. If he's R.A.B., I think he may have gone and done that one last thing- stealing/destroying/whatevering the locket, just as a blow to Voldemort.

Well, that's what I would have done, anyway.

Okay, so I would have first made a permanent charm so that everything the Death Eaters and Voldemort touched turned cotton-candy pink and had the words 'world's prettiest princess' written on it, but ASIDE FROM THAT, I'd have definitely tried to do something that might help in bringing him down.

Or I just would've hid in a closet and eaten as much chocolate as I wanted to. Who knows.



I'll be happy, but only because I don't really like any other Harry pairing, and because I OBHWF. I dunno, book!Harry/Ginny hasn't completely clicked with me yet, no matter how much I like the pairing. Which is weird, because I love the pairing, I'm just not totally satisfied with how JKR's written it.

Which really doesn't make any sense.

Whatever.

Anyway...

I still want my R/Hr. I mean, from the Mugglenet/LC interview, along with the Katie Couric one and the Cub Reporter one, I know that it's definitely going to happen, and that H/Hr has been sunk by an arsenal of anvil-sized hints from the Good Ship, but I still want to read it. I WANT TO SEE RON AND HERMIONE MAKE OUT, DAMNIT.

(Er, and no offense to any H/Hr supporters- I do like you guys, even if I don't like the pairing you ship. And, um, if you are offended, well, my slight rudeness and gloating was directed towards the people in your group that are very much, "H/Hr HAS to happen, or I'll burn all of my books/JKR's a nasty evil woman for saying we're militant [dude, she was talking about a very small group of you/Ginny's a 'scarlet woman'/I hate Ron because he gets in the way of H/Hr!!!"

I'm fine with y'all who just plain don't like Ron for his character- while I strongly disagree with you- I'm a huge Weasley fan (well, for the most part, anyway, I'm not all that fond of them when they do things like hiss at children right after they're sorted just because they happened to be sorted into Slytherin- Gred and Forge, by the way, in one of the books. That was rather irritating to me.)-, I realize that some people don't.)

(Wow, that was a long note. Well, at least no one can murder me on account of their thinking I despise all supporters of H/Hr. (And one of my good friends supports them, so shush, all of you.))



There already is a name. It's Wotcher Wolvie.

More about R.A.B.:



I still dunno, though- I mean, I doubt she would really give that away. I'm not really sure about R.A.B., to be honest. For all we know, it could stand for, like, Really Awesome Butterfly-man. Who knows.

I don't really want to know, actually. Spoilers are <i><b>bad</b></i>. (Shush, Chass. I've completely repented, spoiler-wise. I realized that it was rather boring, knowing huge secrets before-hand. Well. Not huge, really. More like, "Will we see the giant Invisible Mechasaur-Barbie frolicking on the island again?")

And on Harry=Heir of Gryffindor:

I think the part I was most bothered by was your incessant need to try and force spoilers on me >=O

From the interview ...Alex linked us to -



July 16th...could there be something significant about it? *scurries off to re-read July 16th in every book*