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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:28 am 
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Hmm. I seea lot of people aguing that they like anthros, or they're biased because they are anthro artists. But this isn't really a question of whether you like animals or anthros better, but whether it's right for pets, as in beings that are actually owned by another being, pixels or not, to have human characteristics.

As for the arguments I've seen saying that making pets anthro makes them more human, more character, easier to relate to, etc., just makes it worse! It's not right to own humans. That's why slavery is illegal, remmeber?

Personally, if this continues, I'm boycotting Neo again...


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I dont mind them...

I always thought that the Anthro are like... for example... civilized people, and the pets are just... pets. Kinda like people and apes for those of you who believe in that evolution theory...



Well, if the normal Neopets were just pets, they wouldn't be able to read and talk and stuff...though you're probably talking about real life pets?


Just... think of them as more... advanced pets. I mean, a dog would be able to attack a stranger, the battledome is just like a dog with a friggen' laser beam on its head against a giant worm or something. They can do all that, but the anthro pets can only make a diffrence. Plots, running stores, etc. etc...


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Personally, if this continues, I'm boycotting Neo again...


That's the way my friend. Same as me... The point of Neopets is.. PETS.

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We are the humans who look after them not they looking after themselves... what is the point...


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watericesage wrote:
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I dont mind them...

I always thought that the Anthro are like... for example... civilized people, and the pets are just... pets. Kinda like people and apes for those of you who believe in that evolution theory...



Well, if the normal Neopets were just pets, they wouldn't be able to read and talk and stuff...though you're probably talking about real life pets?


Just... think of them as more... advanced pets. I mean, a dog would be able to attack a stranger, the battledome is just like a dog with a friggen' laser beam on its head against a giant worm or something. They can do all that, but the anthro pets can only make a diffrence. Plots, running stores, etc. etc...



i think of that as well..... some neopets are kind of like really big petpets... which is how evolution would be. there are smarter beings, and there are less smarter beings, and usually smarter ones take care of less smarter ones, like petpets, or in many cases, giant chamber monsters or steeds.

I just dont like it when the "more advanced" neopets are so advanced that they are shaped like humans.


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I know I've said this a few times now, but what is it called when a person owns another person? That's right, slavery!

The definition of slavery, according the webster's dictionary

Slavery: the state of being under the control or ownership of another person

Slave: One bound as the property of a person


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I know I've said this a few times now, but what is it called when a person owns another person? That's right, slavery!

The definition of slavery, according the webster's dictionary

Slavery: the state of being under the control or ownership of another person

Slave: One bound as the property of a person


Not really... as how a lot of people see it as they're the parents of the pets. Just look at some of the comics.


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I have nothing against anthro art in general, I actually quite like it. But it seems wrong on Neopets. I can come up with ways to explain why some Aishas have owners and some don't. I can't come up with ways to explain why some Aishas walk on all fours and some are bipeds with hair and breasts.

My take on how anthro is too anthro: imagine the pet naked. If the result seems inappropriate for a family website, it's too anthro.


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The only anthro-pet that has made me feel uneasy is the latest Nimmo revamp - it looks too much like some lanky human with a frog head in some poses - the proportions are too similar. Otherwise I have no problem, it's down to how the users want to 'play' their pets - after all (apart from the Tombola guy) there are no human characters on the site, so how do the shopkeepers stock their shops without opposable thumbs? There is either a secret army of humans running Neopia when nobody is looking - or the pets are doing it themselves. To do that, they need human characteristics.


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Nonononono, you have it all wrong.

The 'pets' as we call them are really the rulers of Neopia. All the humans are their slaves. We, the humans, must strike out against this forced labour... this.. this this SLAVERY! We must unite, we must fight together, we must overthrow the secret Neopian Government and take control of their Capitol... Jelly World....

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watericesage wrote:
I dont mind them...

I always thought that the Anthro are like... for example... civilized people, and the pets are just... pets. Kinda like people and apes for those of you who believe in that evolution theory...

except apes are cousins not ancestors, but yes, good point.
as for the slavery thing, other than my not-so-secret desire to dominate all life, i have this.
its a pixel, is your mouse a slave to a domineering human, hell-bent on taking over neopets one neopoint at a time?
maybe, but does it care?
given its complete and utter lack of sentience, or even base instinct for that matter, i doubt it.


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If they really are "pets" then about 90% of pet related things on neo wouldn't really be possible... but yeah I agree they shouldn't really be too human-like...


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As for the arguments I've seen saying that making pets anthro makes them more human, more character, easier to relate to, etc., just makes it worse! It's not right to own humans. That's why slavery is illegal, remmeber?

How about being anthro pets being easier to draw and easier to have interaction with objects?


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its a collection of pixels.
its not real in any manner that gives it any right by any laws except maybe copyright.
its not going to complain that it doesnt get pay, nor will it actually care.

and slavery is illegal because humanity is too cowardly to admit that they desire power.
that and the whole human rights thing.


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(I have a poll about anthro pets in the poll section as well.)
Well, I like anthro art and everything, since I do draw a lot of it, but I don't like it on Neopets. For one, it doesn't look right. The hair on the Acara girl looks pasted on, and the Aisha girl doesn't look like an Aisha, she looks like a teenage girl dressed up as a cat.
Back in "the day", Neopets were pets. Lupes were on four legs. Aishas never wore skirts. You know, the whole deal. The only ones who actually wore clothes were faeries.

Bah. Proof that Neopets is going down the tubes. (And fast.)


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Nonononono, you have it all wrong.

The 'pets' as we call them are really the rulers of Neopia. All the humans are their slaves. We, the humans, must strike out against this forced labour... this.. this this SLAVERY! We must unite, we must fight together, we must overthrow the secret Neopian Government and take control of their Capitol... Jelly World....

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...maybe you're right. xD; We do everything for our Neopets, but in other Neopian worlds they run their own lands and stuff...some just had the bright idea to let us 'adopt' them so they don't have to do squat. BD;


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