Not too Controversial

[Scythemantis]

It lasted for a good 4 years before it became what it is today: a topic of ridicule which only the youngest of children enjoy.

No, that's what it used to be. The older fanbase is thriving, the games sell just as well as they ever did, and the little kids are the ones who ridicule it and abandoned it for Yugioh.

The hundreds of new pokemon are all just as interesting as the first 150, and as a matter of fact, the plan from the very beginning was for there to be hundreds, even THOUSANDS of pokemon to provide infinite possible teams and, most importantly, to suit all varieties of taste. That is also exactly why there's nothing wrong with continuous new neopets/petpets - variety is everything. When I first joined, I literally liked NONE of the neopets. That all changed when mutants and other re-draw colors showed up. The more there are, the more room we have to make our accounts unique and creative.

Of course, that's where your rant really comes in. It's IMPOSSIBLE to get what you want without a hyper-fast modem and hours upon hours of spare time. I can only make about 1000 np in one day if I really, really try, and I usually don't have the time or energy for it! Inflation is a very serious problem that they don't even seem to notice, and battling is the most imbalanced, unpredictable and halphazard battle system I have ever encountered in any game. You need unlimited funds just to hold your own at all in 2p.

[Twisted Sanity]

It lasted for a good 4 years before it became what it is today: a topic of ridicule which only the youngest of children enjoy.

Okay, so maybe that is a little much But if you look at it, Pokemon's fan base was gigantic at it's peak. I mean, even 30 year old adults were interested in it. But now, that fan base has shrunken dramatically. It's a normal thing though. I mean, Pokemon was the biggest craze in the whole bloody world, so it was bound to die down some time. And die down it did. I understand that Pokemon still has a lot of supporters. But to some Pokemon is one of those taboo things you don't tell your friends you enjoy. Sort of like Neopets

But that's the problem though, neopets is so 'kiddie' that you don't want anyone knowing you play it!

And with all the new items, I never said to stop releasing items, I just meant that if you could sacrifice 1 or 2 days of new features each week, and in return get a completely revamped website, would you do it?

And yes, as much fun as the battledome is, it is extremely 'clunky'.

But I cannot think how TNT can make neopets more suitable for those with slow internet connections. I mean, dial up is slowly being replaced with broadband and the such, and in a few years, no one will use dial up. So I guess that it'd be kinda pointless for them.

[B55B55]

And only recently, you have cancelled the latest Sloth Plot because the Trading Card Game became a bigger priority. Do you not see that you are already going in the same direction Pokemon went?

This I agree. TNT holds a long list of unfinished plots/broken promises. They make people excited over nothing and cause prices to inflate, but in the end give nothing to show for it.

I feel the need to point out here that the sloth plot was also a Trading Card Game plot. It's not like neopets shoved aside a real plot to do a TCG plot. They mearly dropped one TCG plot to make room for another.

[Twisted Sanity]

And only recently, you have cancelled the latest Sloth Plot because the Trading Card Game became a bigger priority. Do you not see that you are already going in the same direction Pokemon went?

This I agree. TNT holds a long list of unfinished plots/broken promises. They make people excited over nothing and cause prices to inflate, but in the end give nothing to show for it.

I feel the need to point out here that the sloth plot was also a Trading Card Game plot. It's not like neopets shoved aside a real plot to do a TCG plot. They mearly dropped one TCG plot to make room for another.

Hmmm, I can't belive I never thought of it that way. No seriously. Heh. Well either way, here they were, getting all their players worked up about seeing Slotch back in action, and instead all they get is Hannah and the Ice Caves? I don't mind the fact that they tie in the TCG with the website's plots, but I think it's downright stupid that a TCG becomes more important than the site itself.

[Alex]

And only recently, you have cancelled the latest Sloth Plot because the Trading Card Game became a bigger priority. Do you not see that you are already going in the same direction Pokemon went?

This I agree. TNT holds a long list of unfinished plots/broken promises. They make people excited over nothing and cause prices to inflate, but in the end give nothing to show for it.

Can we say NeoSchools?

(Haven't read most of this topic - apologies if someone already said this )

[Twisted Sanity]

Can we say NeoSchools?

(Haven't read most of this topic - apologies if someone already said this)

Heh, yeah, actually it has been said. I was surprised myslef. I was so sure I had included that in my rant, but I guess not. Oh damn, that reminds me, I still have to add Qanda's comment to my petpage. This might take some time

[Scythemantis]

Delayed and/or cancelled projects are definately nothing new. They took years to create the battledome after promising it within their first couple of weeks...

[OmniIcyshelf]

It's not controversial, it's the TRUTH. I don't see how anyone could or would want to make an argument against that page, and I agree with nearly every part of it. There's just one problem, and it's that half or more of the staff couldn't care less about how the players feel.

Wow, pleased to see that you agree with me. But I can't exactly say whether or not half of the staff don't care about the players. I mean, there are quite a few good staff members other than Bryan. I was helped by someone named Grace. The response only took 2 days

As much as people would like to think otherwise, Adam and Donna do care for the players. However, you must remember that they are not the official owners of neopets.com anymore. They don't always get the say in whats in and not. And they don't always know about everything that goes on either...

Adam himself said he often finds that rather than playing the game he often just goes around fixing errors he sees while browsing the site. Surely HE would a lot about what goes on, but he can't do much about it because, like you said, neither Adam nor Donna have a great influence in the way the site is run anymore aside from coming up with new item, pet, world, or plot ideas, and perhaps answering simple (or perhaps not) questions in the editorials, as well as eating asparagus and freezing evil people . As vast a range of power as that might seem to some, it has no influence over the way other monitors will enforce the site policies, how sponsors are advertised on the site, how the company's revenue is handled, how support and the rest of the e-mail-answering staff will respond to the players... They are unable to do very much as far as the company's decisions in the interest of finances and capital go, and they can't control others' minds (duh ). So yes, while some care exceptionally for the interest of the players, I can assure you a large portion (or perhaps most of) the staff couldn't care less about how we feel and merely operate in the interest of making a profit. I can also tell you that to some of them we're just another number in milions of players, and whether we're frozen or not doesn't matter to them, and rather than look into issues they'd freeze you just to be "safe". This might not be what they show us with words, but they certainly show it through their actions. I understand I run a tremendous risk by posting something like this on here, but it is for the greater good.

Pokemon was something I did- 5 years ago.Why is it not interesting anymore? First, it's old- Second, the battle system became immensely complex (and possibly unbalanced) with the introduction of new types, creatures, items, abilities, etc., and Finally- There's barely anyone to play against anymore, and most people in the U.S. would go "omG L0lz0R j00 Pl4y p0k3m0n h4h4 nub!!1" I don't deny that it isn't a great game series, but the franchise just got too blown up, and after catching the first 151 and beating nearly everyone around me, I suddenly relized I ceased to care.

[Twisted Sanity]

Delayed and/or cancelled projects are definately nothing new. They took years to create the battledome after promising it within their first couple of weeks...

Yeah, so I've heard But still, any other respectable business wouldn't do that. I mean TNT have less than 100 staff (or so they say) and they're proud of that. But I belive that what they really should do is hire a few dozen more staff members and get this site back on it's feet.

Adam himself said he often finds that rather than playing the game he often just goes around fixing errors he sees while browsing the site. Surely HE would a lot about what goes on, but he can't do much about it because, like you said, neither Adam nor Donna have a great influence in the way the site is run anymore aside from coming up with new item, pet, world, or plot ideas, and perhaps answering simple (or perhaps not) questions in the editorials, as well as eating asparagus and freezing evil people Evil or Very Mad . As vast a range of power as that might seem to some, it has no influence over the way other monitors will enforce the site policies, how sponsors are advertised on the site, how the company's revenue is handled, how support and the rest of the e-mail-answering staff will respond to the players... They are unable to do very much as far as the company's decisions in the interest of finances and capital go, and they can't control others' minds (duh Cheeky Tongue). So yes, while some care exceptionally for the interest of the players, I can assure you a large portion (or perhaps most of) the staff couldn't care less about how we feel and merely operate in the interest of making a profit. I can also tell you that to some of them we're just another number in milions of players, and whether we're frozen or not doesn't matter to them, and rather than look into issues they'd freeze you just to be "safe". This might not be what they show us with words, but they certainly show it through their actions

I think the official owner of the site is Doug Dougalas or something like that. He's the chairman and he decides on most big things. Meh, so long as the site doesn't become a haven for 5 year old nubs, I'll be happy. Sort of

I understand I run a tremendous risk by posting something like this on here, but it is for the greater good.

How do you think I feel I've got a whole petpage of this stuff I feel like I'm walking through a landmine by keeping it there, but I belive it should be noticed.

[cobalt_tomb]

Glitches are really uncontrollable. DO YOU REALY THINK THEY MAKE GLICHES FOR FUN?! Don’t you believe that if they could return your items, they have done this long ago?!

I'm sorry, no - this is incorrect. Glitches come from poor programming which is completely controllable. Completely. Let that sink in a bit.

The big so-called glitch from April - omg. I am so surprised that anyone stayed after that. I had been playing daily until then. For a bit over three years. I still have two accounts at neopets, but rarely think to go there anymore.

They have horrid security. They always have. That, above all else, is why I don't play there anymore - NOR DO I ALLOW MY KIDS TO PLAY THERE.

Make of that what you will.

[OmniIcyshelf]

The owner's name is Doug Dohring. I think he's in it solely for the money. True, the purpose of a company is to make profits, but when you stop caring about the consumer then those profits mean nothing.

[Twisted Sanity]

The owner's name is Doug Dohring. I think he's in it solely for the money. True, the purpose of a company is to make profits, but when you stop caring about the consumer then those profits mean nothing.

I know a little about Douggie here, but I'd better not post it Just look him up on google for a bit of info. I dunno if he's a bad guy though. For all I know, he might be the one keeping the site alive.

[Pimboli]

I used to brag about all my cool pets on Neopets.. got my friends to try it.. and now.. i embarassed of it.. i dont tell anyone anymore! i just secrety hoard my stuff in a little corner..

[alombar42]

Neopets, inc. is a company with a big site. Since it is a big site, it is quiet expected that there will be wrong freezing. Nobody is perfect.

Big sites outght to be perfect, or else others will become bigger.
Numerous examples exist...

So, why they don’t fix their mistakes? Well, sometimes they do fix them. Sometimes they simply can’t unfreeze, since there aren’t any proofs that they wrongly froze. If they unfroze anyone that says that he didn’t do anything wrong, then… you can complete this sentence. (:

They don't fix their mistakes because it takes time and money.
Of course, a few hundred mistakes (any kind) a day should be common to any site with a few million members. This does not mean that the customers will accept it (yes, we are customers).

Glitches are really uncontrollable. DO YOU REALY THINK THEY MAKE GLICHES FOR FUN?! Don’t you believe that if they could return your items, they have done this long ago?!

They make gliches because they are in a hurry to release half-tested software. This is common practice for any software business (even Microsoft does it). But they surely can fix them (i.e. return items or whatever it takes - a backup is always available).

Neopets is not none profit organization. Why they should pay to get more servers, that you use them to put a page where you critic them?! Neopets is a business, not a democracy.
(Sorry for my poor English :\).

Very very true. And as any business they have to respect their customers, to ensure loyalty. Returning customers should be even more respected. Let's not forget that customers who complaint, are still customers.

[OmniIcyshelf]

Neopets, inc. is a company with a big site. Since it is a big site, it is quiet expected that there will be wrong freezing. Nobody is perfect.

Big sites outght to be perfect, or else others will become bigger.
Numerous examples exist...

So, why they don’t fix their mistakes? Well, sometimes they do fix them. Sometimes they simply can’t unfreeze, since there aren’t any proofs that they wrongly froze. If they unfroze anyone that says that he didn’t do anything wrong, then… you can complete this sentence. (:

They don't fix their mistakes because it takes time and money.
Of course, a few hundred mistakes (any kind) a day should be common to any site with a few million members. This does not mean that the customers will accept it (yes, we are customers).

Glitches are really uncontrollable. DO YOU REALY THINK THEY MAKE GLICHES FOR FUN?! Don’t you believe that if they could return your items, they have done this long ago?!

They make gliches because they are in a hurry to release half-tested software. This is common practice for any software business (even Microsoft does it). But they surely can fix them (i.e. return items or whatever it takes - a backup is always available).

Neopets is not none profit organization. Why they should pay to get more servers, that you use them to put a page where you critic them?! Neopets is a business, not a democracy.
(Sorry for my poor English :\).

Very very true. And as any business they have to respect their customers, to ensure loyalty. Returning customers should be even more respected. Let's not forget that customers who complaint, are still customers.

...My God, he's back form the dead!