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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:40 am 
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FWIW, I think that okamotasan18 is the last Mafia member. Why? This is the player who has absolutely the most posts in the game. And, yet, still alive. Now why is that? I know why the wolves didn't maul her. But, why would the Mafia shoot her? The only logical reason I can think of is that she is the last Mafia member. To put it in perspective, she has been a whole lot more helpful to the innocents than I ever was, so why shoot me? The only explanation that makes sense is that this is the last Mafia member.


Lol, NPM, you managed to get an opposing Mafia member to confess on the game thread by this one post of yours. In short, even in death, you are a dangerous player. :evil: I guess that comes with the experience of hosting tons of games on the IDB. ;)

But okamoto - why did you have to confess? While NPM's post made sense, it is not necessarily the truth. While most baddies target those who post the most, it is not always like this.

Innocent players - I think it is unwise to vote off okamotosan now, though he has confessed. He is a threat to the wolves, having mauled NPM already, so the wolves will most likely want to maul him the next night. By doing so you will also give him one more chance to kill a werewolf. I think you all should try to aim for killing a werewolf first the next execution.

If you all execute okamoto, you will die surely since the wolves do not have any unexpected surprises anymore. They already know who are the remaining innocents and they can slowly pick you off one by one, while you all still do not have any confidence of executing a werewolf. With oka around they will have a thorn in their necks and will feel inclined to remove him first. Let them waste a night mauling him; even if they decide not to then it is still ok, since oka doesn't know who is innocent and who isn't, so he has an almost equal chance of hitting a werewolf, especially if he is really targetting them.

From Alex's posts, I feel convinced of her innocence already - if she isn't then I must salute her for being a convincing liar. :P



Neopetsmom - you subtly stated that the wolves had a reason not to kill okamoto... which borders on the edge of giving out secret information, but not quite. Lol evil. :P


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Okay, now I find myself agreeing with Qanda. Why? I have no clue. It could be the fact that he was the Innocent, or it could be the fact that he is actually trying to help the Innocents. Of course, I could be wrong, but I find myself trusting an Innocent more than a wolf... don't you?

(Eh, sorry if this post sounds confusing. I forgot what Qanda was, and had to go back and check. You were an innocent, right?... I kinda sorta got confuzzled...)


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Okay, now I find myself agreeing with Qanda. Why? I have no clue. It could be the fact that he was the Innocent, or it could be the fact that he is actually trying to help the Innocents. Of course, I could be wrong, but I find myself trusting an Innocent more than a wolf... don't you?

(Eh, sorry if this post sounds confusing. I forgot what Qanda was, and had to go back and check. You were an innocent, right?... I kinda sorta got confuzzled...)


Erm, yes I am/was a boring old innocent. I've played four games already (two on IDB) and I've never had the chance to be a baddie before... :(

Edit: More on why I feel that killing okamoto now is unwise.

I believe he already has an idea of who the werewolves are already, so saying that his chance of killing a werewolf is 1/4 is not accurate.

And I do believe that he will try to kill a werewolf, since they are his biggest rivals and threat now. His life is already in the innocents' hands, and if he kills an innocent he will only incur their wrath and force them to vote him out; thus, if he proves his usefulness by killing the WWs they may let him stay alive longer. Either way, it is impossible for okamoto to win this game, but if he kills the WWs the game will sway more towards the innocents, and if my understanding of human psychology is deep enough I trust he would rather the innocents than the wolves win. ;)

Thus - if you keep oka you have a more chances of killing the werewolves, and most likely the WWs will waste a night to maul him too. If they don't then they have to risk oka killing one of them.


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I don't think the innocents should trust him. I mean, that would just be letting you own team lose...if he's telling the truth. Woah, this game can get complicated. It's so much easier to play mofia in person because you have expression, tone of voice, ect.


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Qanda

This is for and my WW teammates:

If for some reason okamotosan is not executed -- don't fall into the trap and waste a mauling on him. He kills first anyway tonight so you can't prevent that. Kill some innocent instead


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Well, I had a weird dream about this last night... Silja (she's never played a game of WW as far is I know) and ScottNak were in it (So were you guys, but you didn't have a major part in my dream). And there were all these little birds following us around, and I have the feeling they were very important to us... I don't know what role they played though. Come to think of it, I don't even know what role I was... At the time of execution, however, my dad woke me up. It was just starting to get to the good part, too!

Okay, back on topic.

Puck- You may be right. However, he promised to at least try to go after the Wolves. And if he knows who they are, then the innocents would win. Oka at least partly on the innocent's side, now. I think. ...?


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I think it'd be wiser to keep okamotasan in the game..he's helping you! He can kill a werewolf! And it sounds like he's working with you, so you have two stabs at killing a wolf!


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Thats very entertaining. You're like the Telltale Heart Mom (is it ok if I call you that?). I can't wait for the next game! I'm sooooo signing up for it! And I think they should execute Chris. He's going to be executed anyway as he doesn't know who the wolves are and could kill an innocent. Good game Chris!


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Well, that was shocking. Didn't expect him to burst out like that.

Anywho, I still think Lass is a Werewolf. Her reaction was too mild. C'mon alive people! Can't you see!? I have such a STRONG feeling she's a Werewolf!


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Well... I agree with Ammer, it was a shock going online after a day and finding out all this mess...
Okamoto confessed... but I think that killing him is NOT a good idea, too. He'll go for wolves, so it's partially on our side.

I just remembered that I said I believed that Okamoto wasn't a wolf but he could be the last mafia... I hope you don't think I was openly accusing you Okamoto, because I didn't have the lease idea. I was just considering the vote patterns, and it fit.


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I tried to stir the votes to Lass (which is my top suspect for being a Werewolf) from everyone conspiring against Chris. I couldn't simply say, "Don't vote for Chris" but I didn't vote for Chris. It's a shame he confessed. He might've had a chance to live despite what everyone was saying.

And I have been telling Chris to shoot Lass ever since this game started. In all honesty, even though I know the Mafia team will lose, please let him stay and kill Lass. If she isn't a Werewolf, than kill him next turn. Please just let him stay and see if this works. Do we have a deal Innocents?


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Well for me it's ok. I don't think you'd suggest it if you're not sure that Lass is a wolf, and since we both need to get rid of the wolves...
I didn't think about it, but surely Okamoto's confession spoiled everything for Ammer and Articfox :(


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I'm going to die anyway, so might as well just say it in here since there seems to be no difference in what dead people can do. In a game where there is no one to suspect, everyone listens to EVERYTHING, and when all of the dead people start accusing one person, the people who are supposed to be the only ones playing the game will listen to anything, especially the remaining werewolves. So it was a lot easier just telling the innocents that we have the same goal, and my team is losing anyway. Now they're listening to werewolves and voting for me >.<


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>.< Does he have to spell it out to you?


INNOCENTS. YOU HAVE AN EXTRA STAB AT GETTING A WOLF. USE IT WISELY. DON'T EXECUTE CHRIS FOR GOODNESS SAKE, YOU'RE PLAYING INTO THE WOLVES HANDS. PLEASE, GIVE CHRIS A CHANCE!!!


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okamotosan18 wrote:
I'm going to die anyway, so might as well just say it in here since there seems to be no difference in what dead people can do. In a game where there is no one to suspect, everyone listens to EVERYTHING, and when all of the dead people start accusing one person, the people who are supposed to be the only ones playing the game will listen to anything, especially the remaining werewolves. So it was a lot easier just telling the innocents that we have the same goal, and my team is losing anyway. Now they're listening to werewolves and voting for me >.<


Chris, I told you last time that ONLY DEAD PEOPLE can post here. YOU are not DEAD. Even if you do not like what is happening in here IT DOES NOT MATTER. There have been COUNTLESS times the 'groupies/dead' people have accused people @ IDB... so YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENS.

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