Yellow Bar beta test results/comments.

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borovan90834

Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:09 am

Amneris wrote:How can you not have much choice, though? Is there no other way to put more advertising on the site rather than a huge in your face moving banner at the top of the screen?

It's kind of giving me a headache :/


At least we dont have flashing pikachu in our banner ads :) Hmmmmm.... wait a sec...
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Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:10 am

The Battledome page is fixed. I had to shrink the totally awesome image of the totally awesome pets having a totally awesome battle... to the pain.

Any more code wackiness? Anyone? Beuller?
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Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:10 am

It could be four thumbs up from a Mmutant pet, right? :P
valerielundberg

Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:10 am

borovan90834 wrote:
Runevalkyrie wrote:
the_dog_god wrote:A lot of people fear the top banner will be used for advertising. The large banner at the top is frustrating enough and having a giant ad adds to the annoyance

He did state in one of the previous threads that the top banner will have sponsor ads, so that fear has been confirmed.


I'm sorry, we don't have much choice in that regard. At least Neopets is still free after 5 years.

I will make sure that it is kept to the absolute minimum though... the yellow bar has 1 in 8 non-neopets related adverts, the top bar will probably be similar.


That's what I figured the reason for messing with the bar was in the first place. Sponsors complaining they aren't getting enough exposure, eh?

Bah...never satisfied, are they? Just like us players. :P
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Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:13 am

I know its the industry standard size. I guess it's just such a shock to see it on neopets. I tend to avoid sites with top banners and now my favourite site just added one. Its kind of disheartening and I wish there was a less intrusive way to do it.

I'm not having a go at you for having adverts at all. Just the manner in which its going to be done.


Edit: Yes, the lack of epilepsy triggering pikachu is a definite plus. I'll give you that.
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Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:13 am

borovan90834 wrote:I'm sorry, we don't have much choice in that regard. At least Neopets is still free after 5 years.

I will make sure that it is kept to the absolute minimum though... the yellow bar has 1 in 8 non-neopets related adverts, the top bar will probably be similar.


This must be tough for you Adam. I know that you've mentioned several times in newspaper and magazine articles that you were happy that Neopets didn't rely on banner advertising for revenues.

I still think that advertisements work best when kept in the lefthand sidebar. They're small, unobtrusive, and work subliminal wonders.

I don't mind advertising, per se. It's just kind of distracting with the top banner ad, along with loading speed problems. Other than those concerns, however, you've done an admirable job! Well done!!! :)
neopian_queen_liana

Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:13 am

Now that I know that sponsers are the reason for the top banners, I understand why it's neccessary. Is it all possible to have banners that aren't so...flashy/moving/seizure inducing? Ok, I'm exaggerating, but you get my point. Are regular old non-moving banners a remote possiblity?
borovan90834

Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:15 am

neopian_queen_liana wrote:Now that I know that sponsers are the reason for the top banners, I understand why it's neccessary. Is it all possible to have banners that aren't so...flashy/moving/seizure inducing? Ok, I'm exaggerating, but you get my point. Are regular old non-moving banners a remote possiblity?


Yeah we'll do some toned down banners :) I'll email our art director now and let him know your comments

SierraRaven wrote:
borovan90834 wrote:I'm sorry, we don't have much choice in that regard. At least Neopets is still free after 5 years.

I will make sure that it is kept to the absolute minimum though... the yellow bar has 1 in 8 non-neopets related adverts, the top bar will probably be similar.


This must be tough for you Adam. I know that you've mentioned several times in newspaper and magazine articles that you were happy that Neopets didn't rely on banner advertising for revenues.

I still think that advertisements work best when kept in the lefthand sidebar. They're small, unobtrusive, and work subliminal wonders.

I don't mind advertising, per se. It's just kind of distracting with the top banner ad, along with loading speed problems. Other than those concerns, however, you've done an admirable job! Well done!!! :)


Remember its a small percentage of banners, not all of them.

Btw...

http://images.neopets.com/translation/hauntedMockup.png :) Dont tell too many people please

Runedit: Please don't double post. Please use the "EDIT" button.
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Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:19 am

borovan90834 wrote:
neopian_queen_liana wrote:Now that I know that sponsers are the reason for the top banners, I understand why it's neccessary. Is it all possible to have banners that aren't so...flashy/moving/seizure inducing? Ok, I'm exaggerating, but you get my point. Are regular old non-moving banners a remote possiblity?


Yeah we'll do some toned down banners :) I'll email our art director now and let him know your comments


While your at it could you suggest to them the brilliant idea of creating a nifty av image for any people with any type of petpet over a certain age :P Heheh - Immersive advertising is great :P Now it's time for you to meet subliminal mid messaging

Hi there...GIVE ME...Adam! How...ALL OF...are you...YOUR NEOPOINTS...today ??

EDIT : Wheee! Halloween - The best type of Ween there is :P Except maybe Wintereenmas :P
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Amneris
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Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:19 am

If they were just flat images I would have less of a problem with them. When you're looking at the screen and turmac is bouncing merrily along the top its very hard to concentrate, particularly with the other little ad doing its thing down the bottom.

The fact that you're actually listening to this is muchly appreciated, though ;)
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Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:19 am

neopian_queen_liana wrote:Now that I know that sponsers are the reason for the top banners, I understand why it's neccessary. Is it all possible to have banners that aren't so...flashy/moving/seizure inducing? Ok, I'm exaggerating, but you get my point. Are regular old non-moving banners a remote possiblity?

Here, here!! Exactly my wishes! Couldn't we just have the top banner ad be an HTML one? The Flash ads are going to trigger migraines, seizures, and vertigo in some people. It's something to think about... ;)
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Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:21 am

Remember its a small percentage of banners, not all of them.

Btw...

http://images.neopets.com/translation/hauntedMockup.png Dont tell too many people please


Now that's what I'm talking about... :D
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Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:21 am

borovan90834 wrote:
Remember its a small percentage of banners, not all of them.

Btw...

http://images.neopets.com/translation/hauntedMockup.png :) Dont tell too many people please


Totally impressive what you did right there, Adam. :D I wonder if you'll do themes for other times of the year. I won't tell anyone about it. =)

BTW, on the front page BD image. Any thoughts on updating it. The grarrl and Kacheek are pretty outdated. Least I think so. Maybe update it to a Lupe and Chi-*shuts up*
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Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:22 am

Wow! That Halloween Bar looks so amazing! I would love to have something like that for special days!
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Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:22 am

simsman24000 wrote:
Sapphire Faerie wrote:Hmmm. I don't really have many complaints. I'm on high speed DSL, so I can't complain about slow loading. I use IE, so I have no problems there. My screen is 800 x 600, and there's just a small increase in scrolling amount, it's bearable.
The top banner doesn't even bother me. The fact that the bar curves around that far makes the whole page look much more complete, like a perfectly packaged gift. It's shiny too.
It would be nice for the Username/Active Pet (Quick Ref.)/NP info/links could be moved upward, as shown here:

Image


I would even say that it goes:

Clock
User
Pet
NP
Flash Button
Search
Language

But that's just me. :)


That's what I originally thought, but when I tried moving them into that order (in PSP) it looked very disjointed and offbalance.
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