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 Post subject: Can you fix the Dance part
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:23 pm 
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It may seem like a good idea but it kinda isnt. The bboy culture does not want any attention too it and and by making one of the bestsites affilated with neopets it will draws too much attention. If it keeps up we will have to many fakes. If people wanted to learn that much they woul do it on there own time without you help. That way the bboy culture can get grow undergroundly. And im sure some bboys may not want to here the term "breakdancing" again...on the news.Not trying get all on you and act like it mine dance and crap..i just do want this site to have a beef. BBoys might start send stuff to you like hate mail. In my opinion im just think you should make a bboy site but in private so it could benifit better.Thanks for listening to my opinion.


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Well, being a dancer myself, I'm interested in street and breakdance as it's something I'm rubbish at. Why should SL take the site down because a few people object?


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if you are a bboy...which i cant tell if you are u would understand that the non bboyers would research it there self if there that instrested.And i dont even think you no much about the culture...you may be just an impresser


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What the hell is a bboy?


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What the hell is a bboy?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakdancing

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Breakdancing was never an actual term used by the original practitioners. It was a term coined in the 80's when it became more of a media phenomenon. David Toop (1991) describes breakdancing as being an adaptation of the Break, a dance popular before being replaced by the Freak, fueled by Chic's "Le Freak" in 1978, but that was revived by Crazy Legs, Frosty Freeze, and the Rock Steady Crew. He also explains, ""the word break or breaking is a music and dance term (as well as a proverb) that goes back a long way. Some tunes, like "Buck Dancer's Lament" from early this century, featured a two-bar silence in every eight bars for the break - a quick showcase of improvised dance steps." However, in the documentary "The Freshest Kids" hip hop pioneer DJ Kool Herc insists that the name breaking originated in the slang term "break", meaning someone going "off" or crazy, just as the dancers seemed to do when driven by the right beat. Others claim the term originates in the break of the song, which is the best part to dance to.

In New York, DJ Kool Herc was the first person to coin the term 'b-boy' in 1969. During performances where Herc would be DJing, he would yell out "b-boys go down!" which cued the dancers to begin breakdancing. 1969 was also the year that James Brown recorded "Get on the Good Foot," a song that promoted high-energy, acrobatic dancing and that Afrika Bambaataa claims led to break dancing (Toop, 1991). Many oldschool breakdancers prefer to be referred to as b-boys. "B-boy" was the original term for urban style dancers, while "breakdancer" is better known as it has been used more commonly by the media. The 'B' in b-boy doesn't correspond to a specific word, but most likely means "Boogie", "Bronx" or "Break." Today, the term 'B-Girl' is used as well.
The "b" in b-boying probably DOES NOT mean "Boogaloo". Boogaloo was a style developed in the West Coast and pertains more to the general Funk styles dance scene than to the b-boying and Hip Hop scene although those two cultures did end up intermingling. Funk styling, or Popping, is an entirely different dance with origins in California and the funk scene, not New York and the Hip Hop scene.


Just because I copied all of that.... doesn't mean I fully comprehend that >_<


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So what are you trying to say, then? That BBoys don't want attention drawn to them? Why? I'm confused. :cry: Please excuse my immaturity. I have a feeling this BBoy/Girl stuff is complicated.


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It took a while for me to comprehend what you meant ... :roll:

So, B-boys don't want attention to their culture, and every new breakdancer who wants to learn is going to be called a "fake" o_O ? Plus they're going to send PPT hatemail?

The majority of B-boys must be pretty immature if that happens ...


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no.....if a person wanted to bboy they look it up at theirselfs if their that instrested ...it shouldnt be some main streamsite influnecing them to start. And if the dance part continues there will start to be fakes popping up out of nowhere which can get annoying.It might add a repuptation to the site...making less ppl to go on your site,which will hurt you on your part.In additon to that when you look up some terms your site is one of the one to come up.So since its new bboys and bgirls will look at it and see its a poor excuse for a site and might tell you to take it down.you can keep the hip hop part...but if you take down the bboy part it can benifit the bboy culture a little more, thanks

b in bboy/bgirl means boogie,break,and bust....Boogaloo is a type of popping..and bboys/bgirl dont want attention drawn to them because the culture is to underground for that.Other elements will be added and it gets annoying when your about to bust...some fake comes in and messes you up.You may think like funny...and they do know any better but it gets annoying after awhile.it even happen to me a few times and you want to go tell them how ignorant..they are but then you would be ignorant.


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So anyone who discovers breakdancing though this site, is a faker?

I mean, isn't [break]dancing a sport? How can one be a faker when it comes to a sport?

And I could understand that you don't want attention to your precious bboy title, you're not going to be able to take down every site about breakdancing that you think will cause people to want to join.


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I don't see how you can be fake if you really want to do it.. also, some people MIGHT look it up on Google and find that site. Plus, how they even find out about it if it's such a secret? I don't understand why if this is a passion and love to you guys, then why do you not want to share it with the world? I understand that if everyone's doing it, then there will be some people who are not truely passionate about it, but I don't think *one* website will influence that. Most people are influenced because the people *around* them do things, not because people on a website they can't see do. Also, most of the breakdancing section isn't up at all yet, so maybe it will be very benificial to the culture.


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Its not a sport and your listening to what im saying.Im saying that if you keep the site up fakers will come and it will make the forums annnoying. NOW READ THIS CAREFULLY SINCE SOME PEOPLE CANT COMPREHEND IF PEOPLE WANTED TO LEARN THEY WOULD DO IT ON THERE OWN TIME WITHOUT AN INFLUENCE.THIS MAKES IT EASIER TO TELL THE FAKES FROM THE REAL BBOYS/BGIRLS.IM NOT TRYING TO TAKE DOWN EVERY BBOY SITE.It can be a cool site...because you seem comitted but can you not put it directly on the site..just use a free website program..which makes making the site even easier.and if ppl want to know ask them to im u or email u.THE CULTURE DOESNT WANT TO OPEN UP BECAUSE THATS HOW IT DIED OUT.so it makes since for them to be cofined in there own space so more ppl will bboy in the process.thanks for reading my opinion


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Its not a sport and your listening to what im saying.Im saying that if you keep the site up fakers will come and it will make the forums annnoying. NOW READ THIS CAREFULLY SINCE YOU CANT COMPREHEND!IF PEOPLE WANTED TO LEARN THEY WOULD DO IT ON THERE OWN TIME WITHOUT AN INFLUENCE.THIS MAKES IT EASIER TO TELL THE FAKES FROM THE REAL BBOYS/BGIRLS.IM NOT TRYING TO TAKE DOWN EVERY BBOY SITE.[b]It can be a cool site...because you seem comitted but can you not put it directly on the site..just use a free website program..which makes making the site even easier.and if ppl want to know ask them to im uor email u.thanks for reading my opinion


First of all, calm down and chill out. There is no reason to shout to make such a point.

Second of all: If there are "fakers" as you put it coming to this forum to make it annoying, I assure you as one of the administrators of this forum that we have the staff to handle it (any less annoyances for my staff would make the job boring.)

Third of all: I think this is more the decision of Yukio to create such a site not infulenced by flamers. If he gets flames because his presentation of the bboy culture, so be it. He likes it, he wanted to make a site about... it's anything anyone who wants to make a website about anything wants to do.



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Its not really secret but it is currently hidden by the shadow of new scool rap.ppl barely even remeber old school as much as new school.so i f they wanted to learn that badly they would of look it u there selfs.there they would find true bboy sites that explain the real ways of a bboy.im not trying to hate on youguysbut i think it might do a lot better if you made a indivual site
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:44 pm 
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Why does everyone who's interested in breakdance automatically become a Bboy faker? I don't quite understand that. I don't want to be a Bboy or whatever the heck that is but it doesn't stop me being interested in other aspects of dance.

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And i dont even think you no much about the culture...you may be just an impresser


And I'd suggest getting to know me before calling me an "impressor". I have said, I am not a breakdancer, I am a classically trained dancer but I'd like to find out about other aspects of dance before I begin my career. I like to learn from others experiences of dance, including breakdance and street dance.


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Wel, as you yourself said: if people wish to learn more about the culture, or be a bboy. They'll have to look for dance information themselves. Fortunately, PPT is now a place where they can find it. The gap for info exists, and thus we're aiding in filling it.

You don't really need to worry about posers either, they tend to jump from things a lot. So though they may be interested in bboy culture one day, they'll be onto yoyos and platform shoes the next.


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