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 Post subject: somebody hand me a map! im lost
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:28 pm 
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for guilds...can i have contests or not? or can i just not post it on the message boards? if i dont have contests can i have comps? or just guild activities in which you get rewarded in?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:34 pm 
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Umm.. I think your allowed to have contests without people having to give you something to enter.. my guild has 5 contests but there are no prizes!
So.. actually.. i think its a no give no prize thing.. contests for fun are allowed im sure :P


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:37 pm 
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hmmm so i cant give prizes eh?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:40 pm 
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Yeah, its just what ive heard.. but it sounds safe,,


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I believe you can give prizes as long as you don't say something like "The person that donates the most gets X prize" If you wish to give out prizes just don't say anything about offering prizes and once the challenge/comp is over you can hand out prizes if you wish. Since there was no "if you give me this I will give you that" competition you should be ok.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:43 pm 
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Good point ^

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I just thinks it would be safer to just X out the prizes.. but that was a good idea.. -gives note to guild leader- XD


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:04 pm 
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Or maybe you could put a notice on the page of contests, like I did once ;)

'WARNING: If you enter this contest and win, you MAY recieve a completly unrelated object for a completly unrelated reason. Do NOT blame the guild for this, as it is completly unrelated.'


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thanks piglett person ;) i think thats the way! :) YOU FOUND MY MAP!! heh


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:25 pm 
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Contests, giveaways, raffles, etc. are not allowed anywhere including guilds. It says so in the Rules, and it even says no contests are allowed in the last issue of the magazine. I know many do have them, but there have been guilds cleared, people warned and/or frozen for having them.

This is from the T&C:

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3. All user content and communications on the Neopets site is filtered and monitored. So that everyone has a good time, you understand and agree that you will not post or send through the site any words, images or links containing or relating to:

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promotions offering prizes of any sort (including contests, raffles, lotteries, chain letters or any kind of giveaway)


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Yeah, they even stop you randomly giving things away. Ask Morningstar - her daughter was frozen for giving things away. It's not worth the risk, don't do it.


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It was in the Neopets magazine that it's allowed... her daughter got frozen because she gave something to someone that she didn't know, and the person reported her. But if you're giving them away to guild members who just participated in a "competition" it's alright.

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From the Neopets Magazine, verbatim~*
Contests vs. Competitions
Often times, when attempting to generate interest in their guilds, people will make the mistake of offering 'contests.' Regardless of whether their intentions are noble or not, the fact is that this is simply not allowed on the Neopets site. Any time that you say, "I will give you a reward for winning (or even participating) in such and such an activity," then you are entering a situation where, more ofthen than not, people end up getting scammed.

On the other hand, if you announce to your guild members that a competition is being held (let's say, a competition to see who can make the best drawing), and you do not offer or promise any prizes as part of the competition, then that is perfectly within the rules of the neopets site. Now, as the person running the guild, you have an active interest in getting as many people as possible to participate in our competition (because, naturaly, the more people who take part, the more interest there will be in your guild).

Therefore, if you decide (after the competition has taken place) to give one/some of the particiaptn(s) an item(s) of your own, then there's nothing wrong with that, either - after all (at least in theory) people didn't sing up for your competition because they were being told they would get something, remember? By the same token, there are no rules saying that you can't just give someone an item out of the kindness of your generous little heart.

So, just to recap:
A contest is an activity where the participants are offered (or promised) the possibility of receiving a prize in exchange for participating in (or 'winning') that activity. This is NOT allowed on the Neopets site.

A competition is an activity in which participants are never offered (or promised) the possibility of receiving a prize in exchange for their involvement. They participate solely because they want to. This is allowed by the Neopets site. keeping this in mind, should ghe proprietor of a guild decide to give an item(s) to someone who happened to be a particiapnt in one of their competitions, then this is okay, as there are no rules against this on the Neopets site.


That was in September that one of my guildmates typed that up, so I don't know what issue it came from.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:48 pm 
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thanks piglett person ;) i think thats the way! :) YOU FOUND MY MAP!! heh


;) I was joking, heh, the best way is to not offer prizes at all, but maybe send some out to a winner ;)


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I think that they would do well to actually apply this rule to either nobody or everybody because ever since being in the top 3 of a high score board I have had a record number of guild invites (some from rather big guilds) and most of them still have the 'spend a fortune in the guild shop contests'. These contests are usually the biggest scam going, where you spend 10000 to buy a 'ticket' to win a raffle. And yet other guilds have been warned or even deleted for having 'free' contests, by which I mean contests that dont cost the user anything to enter.

I personally cannot see any problem with free contests as long as they are not asking people for art work or items etc. But another thing I have noticed is guilds trying to get around this by making members complete 'Faerie Quests' (usually involving expensive items) to gain guild points, or ranks.


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 Post subject: Re: somebody hand me a map! im lost
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:34 pm 
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n1k wrote:
for guilds...can i have contests or not? or can i just not post it on the message boards? if i dont have contests can i have comps? or just guild activities in which you get rewarded in?


you may have competitions and contests but offer no prize or you will be warned or possibly frozen, you cant have any item giveaways of any sort either (newbie packs do qualify and ARE against the rules ;))


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