WEAPON ADVICE & RECOMMENDATIONS

[neobeth]

How much are you willing to spend ?

[Yuusuke]

Hello. I was curious as to what I should get to help me in the upcoming plot. I'm willing to spend up to 6.7 million.

Species: Elephante
Level: 31
Health: 331 / 331
Strength: 176
Defence: 36
Move: 81

Abilities
Drain Life
(Level 1)
Night Vision
(Level 1)
Demon Breath
(Level 2)
Burrow
(Level 1)
Magic Berries
(Level 2)
Tough Skin
(Level 2)
Negg
(Level 1)
Temporal Leak
(Level 1)
Magic Torch
(Level 1)
Spark
(Level 1)
Air Shield
(Level 1)
Shroud
(Level 1)
Shadow Health
(Level 1)
Sink
(Level 1)
Bubble Shield
(Level 1)
Magic Pebbles
(Level 1)
Flash
(Level 1)
Heal
(Level 1)
Nighttime
(Level 1)

Equipment:
Lost Desert Dagger
Blue Scorchstone
Attack Fork
Grand Lightning Beam
Ramtors Spellbook
Poisonous Flower

[neobeth]

Hello. I was curious as to what I should get to help me in the upcoming plot. I'm willing to spend up to 6.7 million.

Species: Elephante
Level: 31
Health: 331 / 331
Strength: 176
Defence: 36
Move: 81

Abilities
Drain Life
(Level 1)
Night Vision
(Level 1)
Demon Breath
(Level 2)
Burrow
(Level 1)
Magic Berries
(Level 2)
Tough Skin
(Level 2)
Negg
(Level 1)
Temporal Leak
(Level 1)
Magic Torch
(Level 1)
Spark
(Level 1)
Air Shield
(Level 1)
Shroud
(Level 1)
Shadow Health
(Level 1)
Sink
(Level 1)
Bubble Shield
(Level 1)
Magic Pebbles
(Level 1)
Flash
(Level 1)
Heal
(Level 1)
Nighttime
(Level 1)

Equipment:
Lost Desert Dagger
Blue Scorchstone
Attack Fork
Grand Lightning Beam
Ramtors Spellbook
Poisonous Flower

Hi Yuusuke, sorry to say that most weapons have drasticly inflated since the plot was announced. My first question is are you willing to stop labbing till the plot is over ? If so pick up a Elephante Unguent, its a 50% healer for elephantes. They are only 130-140k on the trading post. Will post more when you answer back.

[Yuusuke]

Yupp. I haven't labbed in a while and don't have any plans to start again. (at least not any time soon)

[neobeth]

Ok first get Elephante Unguent, downsize!, leaf shield and train your level so that you can use berserk.
Next you need a freezer, the 2 main choices are the snowglobe staff and black frost cannon. snowglobe staff is about 30k and a 20% chance of a freeze, the cannon is about 400k and a 23% chance of a freeze. When you freeze your opponant a honey potion is a good bomb(15 icons) Lastly you should have enough left to get either a wand of reality or bow of destiny(both 13 icons)
The above should leave you with
1 wor/bod
2 ramtors spellbook
3 downsize!
4 honey potion
5 leaf shield
6 elephant unguent
7 freezer
8 open
You can also check out http://idb.finalhit.org, they have really good weapons info.

[Cranberry]

I updated my first post on the first page to add some new cheap (but good) attackers like Unstable Slime and Battle Ready Pencil Box. I also updated some of the info, so any of the weapons listed in that post should be good to use if there's any battling in this new Sloth plot.

[Mongrel]

Thanks Cranberry! *admires Cran's fountain of knowledge*

[Byakuya San]

Anyone want to give me some advice? I have about 2 million NP to spend, but I'd prefer not to have to fork over more than 1.5 for anything.

Species: Kacheek
Level:29
Health: 77 / 54
Strength: EXCELLENT (41)
Defence: GREAT (30)
Move: lightning
Intelligence: ULTIMATE GENIUS (155)

Equipment:
Downsize!
Blue Scorchstone
Stone Club
Ramtors Spellbook
Leaf Shield

Abilities:
Night Vision
Burrow
Magic Berries
Tough Skin
Magic Torch
Spark
Air Shield
Sun Ray
Magic Pebbles
Fiery Gaze
Smoke Screen
Fiery Roar
Flash
Bless
Heal
Nighttime

Last edited by Byakuya San on Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[neobeth]

What is your level, high enough to get sink ?

[Byakuya San]

What is your level, high enough to get sink ?

Oh, sorry. 29, but I'm working on bringing it up to 30.

[Phlameseeker]

Anyone want to give me some advice? I have about 2 million NP to spend, but I'd prefer not to have to fork over more than 1.5 for anything.

Species: Kacheek
Level:29
Health: 77 / 54
Strength: EXCELLENT (41)
Defence: GREAT (30)
Move: lightning
Intelligence: ULTIMATE GENIUS (155)

Equipment:
Downsize!
Blue Scorchstone
Stone Club
Ramtors Spellbook
Leaf Shield

Abilities:
Night Vision
Burrow
Magic Berries
Tough Skin
Magic Torch
Spark
Air Shield
Sun Ray
Magic Pebbles
Fiery Gaze
Smoke Screen
Fiery Roar
Flash
Bless
Heal
Nighttime

Hmm, don't normally do this, but what the hell, here goes nothing

Best advice i think atm is to train. Get the 55 boosts, and then head for the 85.

First priority would be to train str to the 55 boost, and either ditch defence, or train it in keeping. Codestones are fast but expensive, dubloons are much slower but also cheaper. I'm training with dubloons, currently at lvl 38, hp 76, str 76, def 71. Movement, dont bother with it tbh. Also train level to 30 to ensure you can get the top faerie abilities (noticably missing is Sink - uses Dark Faeries, req level 30... check on IDB: http://idb.finalhit.org/?searchtype=pag ... eabilities)

Weapons are ok atm. I've survived with dual Scarab Rings, Greater Healing Scroll, Leaf Shield, Downsize!, and an Ancient Lupe Wand (100% Species Specific Freezer), and managed to rack up 160 and 100 kills so far on the 8 and 10 dif opponents, 22 kills on the 35, 1 on the 66 (dont fancy risking my ALW), but none on Riilan.

Consider upgrading the Scorchstone (30hp) to a Greater Healing Scroll (50hp). Look into finding a % freezer such as Snowglobe Staff (vastly overpriced at the moment) or one of the higher frost cannons for when the battles get tougher. Or use Fiery Gaze / Diamond Dust on first round, if it doesnt freeze, withdraw and heal up (I recommend maxing on hardest opponents first, use the easier ones to heal up while you can).

As your health gets higher (>100 ish), you may want to consider a Kacheek Life Potion (providing you stay a Kacheek), but its not worth it at your current health.

Keep the Leaf Shield, or maybe consider getting Shiny Shoal Shell Shield or Patched Magic Hat to swap in for it, depending on opponent. If you want to take on Riilan, maybe a few Thick Smoke Bombs?

Ramtors Spellbook and Stone Club are good, maybe grab a Scarab Ring for dual duty (nice against the 2nd wave opponents who have some mass fire attacks). Weapons upgrades arent really my speciality, maybe another Spellbook, or a Golden Compass? Dont take me at my word though. If you are having problems as opponents get tougher, maybe grab some muffins to use with Fierce / Jump and Attack when they are frozen. Or grab a Honey Potion (again, massively inflated). Don't know how quickly you earn NP, but the next step up from the Spellbook would be Wand of Reality / Bow Of Destiny.

In terms of abilities, must haves are Burrow and Sink. Fiery Gaze is useful, also consider Diamond Dust (think it has a higher chance). Restore / Healing Vapour are worth getting, whichever requires less Faeries. I'd go with Healing Vapour as you get Quench on the way (again useful against the Rainbow Clockwork Grundos of the 2nd wave).


Hmm, that looks like everything for now. Also try posting on the idb forums: http://forums.finalhit.org/ you'll get some far better advice :

[Argentee]

I could use some advice... current budget is 2 mill. I've got a bid in on an Etheral Sword, no telling if I'll get it.

Name : AzureAstra
Species : Xweetok
Agility : 42 (EXCELLENT (42))
Attack Strength : 57 (EXCELLENT (57))
Defence Strength : 47 (EXCELLENT (47))
Current hp: 52 / 52
Level : 31

-Equipment-

Lost Desert Dagger
Immense Rubber Axe of Doom
Leaf Shield
Scarab Ring
Scarab Ring
Greater Healing Scroll

- Current Abilities -


Night Vision (Level 1)
Bubble Shield (Level 1)
Fiery Gaze (Level 1)
Smoke Screen (Level 1)
Fiery Roar (Level 1)
Heal (Level 1)

[Byakuya San]

Phlameseeker-thanks for the tips! I usually make 10k a day, so I'll get to work on training in a few days.

Argentee-The ability burrow, as most everyone else will tell you, is a MUST, along with sink. You'll probably want to upgrade from the scarab rings and lost desert dagger to more powerful weapons like...
Stone Club, Ice Club, Psellia's Fighting Fan, Golden Compass, Scuzzy's Comb, Ramtor's Spellbook, etc. I'd look up their stats here. Also, it might be worth looking in to the NeoQuest II Insane weapons, though they are expensive. I'm sure you can get some ideas from what Phlameseeker told me, as well as other posts on this thread (well, I think), as I'm not the most hardcore battler out there.

[nisekhai]

I equipped my battle pet a long time ago (more than a year, I came back for the plot :3), I'm pretty sure it's outdated now...

Kushruneid
Species: Kougra
Level: 43
Health: 280
Strength: AMAZING (97)
Defence: AWESOME (62)
Move: LEGENDARY (110)
Intelligence: ULTIMATE GENIUS (240)
(Her stats are unbalanced because of abusive labbing in the past)

Abilities: the 52

Equipment:
Lost Desert Dagger
Scarab Ring
Scroll of Dark Nova
Leaf Shield
Ramtors Spellbook
Grand Lightning Beam
Black Frost Cannon
Hand Painted Scarab

Funds: about 800k

Thank you for your help !

[metalmario]

What're some upgrades from Greater Healing Scroll? 50HP is great and all, but I've found that it's a waste of a turn when I could defend more than I heal. My HP is at 700+ but I don't want to drop millions on the awesome healers. Am I out of luck?


Edit: Lab pet, so species fluctuates. Eventually will be a Lupe if the lab will give me robot. Waiting for after war, so I'm asking in pre-war prices.