Coppa Di Altador! (Split 3)

[Saph]

I've looked on the front page, skimmed the thread, clicked all the altador cup links on the preview page....

Help, where is everyone training at??? (playing test games)

If you've signed up to be on an Altador Cup team, then on the Cup index page, there is a link with the fire petpet on it which will open up a practice game.

Last edited by Saph on Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[manatemuse]

thanks saph, of coures I looked before I signed up... dohh

I'm just not an action gamer... don't know why I thought I could do this... puzzles are more my speed...

thanks for all the fun banners and info...

call me for the cheerleader tryouts..

[burntouttrash]

Keep trying, I was rubbish when I first started practicing but now I can win most of the time (depending on what yooyu I'm given... blimmin' snow ball).

[Kayisme755]

I hate the faerie ball and the mutant one is pretty bad too.

[neneno]

ackk, I've tried both Altador and Krawk Island, and I can't decide @_@! Altador has decent speed, and is good at holding onto/stealing the ball, but krawk island isn't too bad and I'm a sucker for names like "Ol' Dash" XD

I'm also proud to say that the practice team never passed by my goalkeeper 8D! *has an advantage with mouse-related games because of my wacom tablet*

[anjuna]

*has an advantage with mouse-related games because of my wacom tablet*

Gread idea! If everyone starts having too much fun with this I may even go out and buy one just to try. Thanks for reminding me, tablets rock!

[Wind]

So far I'm switching like mad between teams, and trying to get screenshots of them scoring it's incredibly cute drawings, I can't help it... But this way I'm also practising. Sort of.

[musikitamanga]

Finally finished all of my sets for banners. A couple of them have been updated but here they are;





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[Ferret]

Hmm, I suck so bad at this, but there seems to be no way to UN-sign up?

Be off of all teams? I hope the fact that I won't be participating will not lower the team I am left "on" to suffer? I simply do not like this at all! :P

I really think it sucks that I can only move one on my team at a time and the other team can just surround me like a swarm. Seems to kind of defeat the purpose of having any control over the players, game, etc.

Moving the mouse and clicking does not help, my reactions are too slow. I can't aim; these circle bubble things are hard to rotate; and my team members can't move fast enough so always get the ball stolen from them.

Congrats to those doing so well with it. :) It all just goes too fast for me.

It is a real shame that you have had this many problems with it. I had similar problems when I started, but managed to get better quite quickly. Even though I can't abide football, I'm really enjoying this game now. If you want to give it another chance, here's some advice targeted at the exact problems you've had:

(1) You say that you often get the ball taken off of you... this shouldn't be happening! Once one of my players has possession he can usually keep it all the way to the goal mouth (from any starting position) with little or no problems. This is the only thing you mentioned I've never experienced. Maybe it would help to know:

* The other team moves only one player at once most of the time too. If you know who that player is, you can move away from him.

* There's nothing bad about going in the wrong direction for a while to reach space and avoid losing possession. They don't seem to cope too well with this.

* The other team hardly ever changes that player early enough, so you can often walk past the defenders while he's still trailing behind you with a midfielder. By the time he switches, the player he switches to will be behind too!

(2) Taking the ball off of them: don't play the chasing game. If they have the ball past you, hit Space, then Shift, then choose the closest player in front of them. Once you've done this for a few games, you'll hardly ever see them in your half. Actually taking the ball off of them is easy: approach from the side just ahead of them and you'll magically get it. If you approach from the side just a little behind them you'll just push them and probably both lose the ball, so give them a little space until you run past them, or better: switch to someone in front of them!

(3) If you've got used to the last two items you should now have possession most of the time; and will want to start scoring: this is the most difficult bit to get used to. Following is some basic strategy that almost anyone should be able to use:

* Aim for the corner, at at least a slight angle (except with faerie ball: most of my goals with that are by firing straight at a corner).

* Approach STRAIGHT, but not down the MIDDLE of the playing field. Straight at one of the goal-mouth corners. If this makes no sense I'll draw a picture.

* Shoot when you're just past the defenders (as soon as you're clear, usually). Don't worry too much about which ball you're using, unless it's the faerie ball (which I don't know how to deal with yet, good luck!)

* If you approached straight then the goalkeeper is on one side of the goal. Click the opposite corner.

* You HAVE to click on the pitch to shoot. You can't click inside the goal or past the goal mouth. You want to click just on your side of the goal mouth, and adjust to slightly further in from the posts than you expect.

(4) Random advice/troubleshooting:
* To start with, ignore ALL the keyboard controls. Use the mouse only.

* After a while you may find it a bit annoying when you have too many players in their half, and they get in the way by focus stealing, or in the path of your shot. Try hitting Shift when you notice this.

* Mouse control is of utmost importance. If you have problems, try to keep the mouse trailing just ahead of your player. If you still have problems, try assigning more concentration to your mouse cursor's position!

* After a while you'll find that a lot of your goal concessions are from being unable to control the goalkeeper in time. Unfortunately, there's no quick fix for this. Using the 'closest player goes to the cross' method doesn't work on goalkeepers at all, and the time it takes to hover on your goalkeeper might be too long. The only other way is to develop ninja (A/D) skills to switch players. I can't do this, though, it's too hard. Three ideas: (a) Don't let them take a shot: work on keeping possession. This isn't silly as it sounds, I'm down to one/two shots from the opposing team per game. (b) Don't let them take a shot: work on REGAINING possession. A possible strategy is to hit shift EVERY time they get possession and are nearly in your half. (c) Petition TNT to give us a 'focus to goalkeeper' button.

* Treat the fire and ice balls about the same to start with. For the purposes of scoring cross-goal-mouth goals they are more similar than you think. Treat the mutant ball like an ice or fire ball, since this is the easiest way to deal with it. Treat the faerie ball with contempt. n.n

(5) If you're not getting better and still losing more than half your games after a dozen games or so, seriously consider quitting. Maybe you don't have the specific kind of mouse skills for this kind of game. :(

Don't feel too guilty about bad play affecting your team. Remember most of your team will be 11/12 year old american kids. ;)

{EDIT}: Disclaimer: this is a beginner strategy that has served me, personally, well. I think it will do people fine until they develop a strategy that suits them.

[afyapardess]

*struts her Roo Islandy stuff*

I took far too long thinking about it, really. The quiz sorted me into Kiko Lake which I didn't like at all, but none of the teams with pretty-looking shields really appealed to me. In the end I just had to go with my 'home' team - I hope the trophy (if any) will look alright.

Now, to practice!

[anjuna]

Oh my goodness, Ferret, lol. I do appreciate all that, and I am sure many more will benefit from it but my basic skills of lack (and lack of skills) prevail.

Simply put, forget about all of this. By the time I see the players closing in around me and stealing the ball (by the way I have no idea how I even get the ball in the first place, so that sucks heh) it is already too late.

I have no ability to use both a keyboard and mouse at the same time, while also watching a screen and trying to react to all that. Impossible for me, I simply must lack the synapses bridging the left and right hemispheres of my brain or something.

And more buttons and controls are not going to help, only make it worse. There are just too many things to keep track of and it MOVES SO FAST.

That part I really can't get over. Maybe I am just too old for video games.

By the time I realize what is happening, usually the ball being stolen from me, they have already won the goal. I can't click any of my members "ahead" anywhere because if I manage to accidentally get the ball, I then can't click to move or pass the ball in time before it is stolen again. Actually I can't seem to pass at all, since if my mouse is on the guy with the ball and I try to aim his shooting, then I can't move the recipient if my aim was bad to begin with so that he can catch it, err BUZZ game over. That is how fast it happens for me. I can't even move my goalie quick enough to block. Soooo ... I'll be sitting on the bench I guess.

EDIT: And I am good with a mouse, but a mouse ONLY. Using my other other hand or half of the brain to try to do anything else at that time doesn't work. And you remind me if is 11-12 year old kids playing, they will sure as heck do a lot better than me. So your advice to quit is best.

[Ferret]

Aww. :(
OK. :P

[anjuna]

I'll be in the locker room waiting to slap people's butts with a wet towel. Cheerleading never was for me, either. Enjoy your gaming guys and gals!

[Makuta_Neodude]

Seventy-third!
I chose Kiko Lake, just because they're the underdog and because i Kikos. and the logo's funny. wierdly, the quiz put me in the team after i had already made up my mind. maybe it does match my personality, but i think it's username-based.

[matchbow]

I've read that certain teams have characteristics, so can i get an overview of all the characteristics of every team? i'm using faerieland right now, and they seem fairly decent