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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:18 am 
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Out of interest .... I contacted Adam via e-mail regarding this thread I got a pretty quick reply from him about it.

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Argh! Thanks for telling me, I shall get right on the problem. Its
our advertisers, not us creating the popups.

I hate the banners just about as much as you do ... :(

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For some reason, every time I try to email him, he sends back a form reply referencing some sort of restraining order. Hmm.


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Runevalkyrie wrote:
Out of interest .... I contacted Adam via e-mail regarding this thread I got a pretty quick reply from him about it.

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Argh! Thanks for telling me, I shall get right on the problem. Its
our advertisers, not us creating the popups.

I hate the banners just about as much as you do ... :(

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I sort of figured it wasn't Neopets and that when Adam found out he'd get on it. :) I'm glad he knows about it. Hopefully everything will be taken care of soon.


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Kurisutaru wrote:
Runevalkyrie wrote:
Out of interest .... I contacted Adam via e-mail regarding this thread I got a pretty quick reply from him about it.

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Argh! Thanks for telling me, I shall get right on the problem. Its
our advertisers, not us creating the popups.

I hate the banners just about as much as you do ... :(

Adam


I sort of figured it wasn't Neopets and that when Adam found out he'd get on it. :) I'm glad he knows about it. Hopefully everything will be taken care of soon.


Yep, and yay. Personalised responses are so cool - I love them. :D

Glad thats been sorted out... A big relief.


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It seems like they really get pushed around by their sponsors.
I'm just afraid of what will happen if the advertisers give them the ultimatum of leaving the popups alone or getting abandoned. =/


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Kurisutaru wrote:
Runevalkyrie wrote:
Out of interest .... I contacted Adam via e-mail regarding this thread I got a pretty quick reply from him about it.

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Argh! Thanks for telling me, I shall get right on the problem. Its
our advertisers, not us creating the popups.

I hate the banners just about as much as you do ... :(

Adam


I sort of figured it wasn't Neopets and that when Adam found out he'd get on it. :) I'm glad he knows about it. Hopefully everything will be taken care of soon.


Yep, and yay. Personalised responses are so cool - I love them. :D

Glad thats been sorted out... A big relief.


Good on him! For all the little business snaffoos he makes, its good to see that he still wants to be connected to the users.

He's creative and he has a vision for the site. The fact that the suits aren't letting him fully let the site realize its potential is a big shame.


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This proves that you guys don't give TNT anough credit. Sure, they make some mistakes, but they don't so anything malicious like that on purpose!


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Runevalkyrie wrote:
Out of interest .... I contacted Adam via e-mail regarding this thread I got a pretty quick reply from him about it.

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Argh! Thanks for telling me, I shall get right on the problem. Its
our advertisers, not us creating the popups.

I hate the banners just about as much as you do ... :(

Adam


Did I tell you guys, or what? like bdd1 said, give them some credit. Im surpised at how many of you said "tnt are liars" and "there goes my trust with neopets"..... come on guys.... its easy to start thinking "oh, there goes the company".... but there are some good heads at the top of this company.... Adam and Donna really do like to keep the players happy as much as possible!


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I said that if they WERE directly responsible (Which they clearly are not, fortunately) then they were lying directly to us. Thankfully, there are plenty of staff that care about the players. If ever "authorized" popups should come, though, I'm holding to my word and leaving behind a big mess before I go :P


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Runevalkyrie wrote:
Out of interest .... I contacted Adam via e-mail regarding this thread I got a pretty quick reply from him about it.

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Argh! Thanks for telling me, I shall get right on the problem. Its
our advertisers, not us creating the popups.

I hate the banners just about as much as you do ... :(

Adam


For some reason, every time I try to email him, he sends back a form reply referencing some sort of restraining order. Hmm.


:roflol:

Ok, nobody else thought that was funny? Heh.

See, this proves that at least the TNT figureheads like borovan and poptart are still cool. Way to listen to the consumers, Adam 8)


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Well, first Thank You Adam. Once again, you're taking on fighting with at least the ad companies.

This unfortunately isn't the first pop-up and I doubt it'll be the last. Not because Adam, Donna and the staff don't care -- on the contrary I believe that they DO care.

There's still something that tries to d/l something Active X now and then on my computer, I still don't know what the ad is. I get a blank space and the Active X warning.

The bottom line is the banner ads are bad. They cause computers to slow down (mine sometimes crashes); they bring tracking cookies, adware, malware and if you click any of these ads (most of which are scam/spam sites) you run the real risk of spyware - at the least.

With just about any of these ad networks there's going to be pop-up woes. Burstnet is one that defeats my pop-up blocker, Spybot and ad-aware. It's a very persistent pop-up. I just hope they don't start using them!

This in the article worries me:

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And Neopets is stepping up efforts to make money from the huge volume of traffic on its free Web site by signing licensing deals and selling ads, which are already stirring up controversy among some parents and watchdog groups.


The "stepping up efforts" part. I going to guess that's what the bottom page ads were?

There's been talk of a movie for I think close to a year now.


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Well, first Thank You Adam. Once again, you're taking on fighting with at least the ad companies.

This unfortunately isn't the first pop-up and I doubt it'll be the last. Not because Adam, Donna and the staff don't care -- on the contrary I believe that they DO care.

There's still something that tries to d/l something Active X now and then on my computer, I still don't know what the ad is. I get a blank space and the Active X warning.

The bottom line is the banner ads are bad. They cause computers to slow down (mine sometimes crashes); they bring tracking cookies, adware, malware and if you click any of these ads (most of which are scam/spam sites) you run the real risk of spyware - at the least.

With just about any of these ad networks there's going to be pop-up woes. Burstnet is one that defeats my pop-up blocker, Spybot and ad-aware. It's a very persistent pop-up. I just hope they don't start using them!

This in the article worries me:

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And Neopets is stepping up efforts to make money from the huge volume of traffic on its free Web site by signing licensing deals and selling ads, which are already stirring up controversy among some parents and watchdog groups.


The "stepping up efforts" part. I going to guess that's what the bottom page ads were?

There's been talk of a movie for I think close to a year now.


Watch it be rated G and completely inexpressive of the site as a whole.


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But, in the case there is pop-ups(which I trust the site to not have), shouldn't we send an e-mail about that to TNT instead of complaining?


If you look at the second image I posted, you will see that under the pop up window, it says "Thanks for submitting. We'll look into it as soon as we can." I copied and pasted the pop up's url and submitted it to support immediately after it happened.

And, just to clarify something. Yes, the pop up was created by the banner ads--but I still don't see that as an excuse Neopets can use for this happening. Neopets is and always will be ultimately responsible for anything and everything on this website. They contracted to obtain the ads, they decided which company to use, and they (I assume) had legal beagles assist with the writing of the contract--so they are to blame if they aren't policing their ad company properly.

After seeing ads telling us get birth control, kiss Brad Pitt, and guess who will get pregnant first, I just don't understand why someone on the Neopets' staff isn't monitoring the ads BEFORE they go on the banner. Surely someone on the legal staff had the sense to put that in the contract--if not, they need new lawyers.


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But, in the case there is pop-ups(which I trust the site to not have), shouldn't we send an e-mail about that to TNT instead of complaining?


If you look at the second image I posted, you will see that under the pop up window, it says "Thanks for submitting. We'll look into it as soon as we can." I copied and pasted the pop up's url and submitted it to support immediately after it happened.

Well, I didn't see that part, but I didn't aim that post at you, but to the others complainers.

But yes, I find it a wonder why is neo so careless when adding certains ads.


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