Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:52 am
Oh great, more editorial questions that could've been answered in the Help board! Even though it clearly stats not to ask those questions in the Editorial Donna answers them anyways. Reward people for breaking rules! Great. 
At least they fixed the glitch. It only took them three days.
Yes, I'm not feeling too fondly of neopets right now.
At least they fixed the glitch. It only took them three days.
Yes, I'm not feeling too fondly of neopets right now.
Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:53 am
Darklegendary wrote:Yay, glow fonts are removed! The NT comics were so funny, I laughed so hard!
Here are some good ones:
http://www.neopets.com/ntimes/index.pht ... 9&week=153 (Nef makes such awesome flash movies!)
That one made me laugh
Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:54 am
CrewWolf wrote:Darklegendary wrote:Yay, glow fonts are removed! The NT comics were so funny, I laughed so hard!
Here are some good ones:
http://www.neopets.com/ntimes/index.pht ... 9&week=153 (Nef makes such awesome flash movies!
That one made me laugh
Now that's original! I loved that flash. ...and here I thought the comic section has become stale.
About those darned fonts...
Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:32 am
Posted Monday, 16 August:
We have removed the glow and shadow effects from the Neoboards as these only worked for people using Internet Explorer. People using other browsers such as Mozilla or Netscape were unable to read anything written using those effects.
I beg to differ. I stopped using Internet Explorer due to the major security flaw. Instead, I downloaded and began using Mozilla Firefox 0.9.2 (I have since obtained the newest build, 0.9.3). There were very few situations in which I could not read a font. There was never a single situation where highlighting did not fix that problem. Despite Firefox's inability to render the shadow/glow effect, I continued using it because the technical support and customizability make it a preferable browser to Microsoft's IE.
Mozilla/Netscape occupy less than five percent of the browser market. Disabling a feature 95% of users can utilize because of the complaints of a few does not make sense. It would seem that in order to attract new members, one would want features that are fun to customize and use. Removing features without so much as a "by-your-leave" or considering the number of users who took pride in their multicolored fonts is a direct slap in the face to Neopets users.
Claiming that Mozilla and Netscape users were unable to read anything using shadow/glow fonts is incorrect. My younger siblings, <name witheld> and <name witheld>, use Netscape on their computer because IE is unsafe. Again, they have not found a post illegible that could be made legible by highlighting. (Incidentally, I am using Firefox on XP Pro; they are using Netscape 7.1 on Win98)
Denying users access to this function because of a supposed error is an inconvenience. Giving an incorrect reasoning is worse. Netscape/Mozilla browsers will render the fonts, minus glow and shadow effects. Some fonts whose primary color is white would appear invisible, true enough. But claiming that users were "unable to read anything" is wrong. Period. Tell us what you want, but don't feed us an incorrect line of reasoning.
If you will pardon my rant...TNT has played this one the wrong way...It's one thing to say that the shadow/glow function isn't supported by Mozilla and Netscape (which it isn't), but it's another thing entirely to say that users can't read anything at all.
We have removed the glow and shadow effects from the Neoboards as these only worked for people using Internet Explorer. People using other browsers such as Mozilla or Netscape were unable to read anything written using those effects.
I beg to differ. I stopped using Internet Explorer due to the major security flaw. Instead, I downloaded and began using Mozilla Firefox 0.9.2 (I have since obtained the newest build, 0.9.3). There were very few situations in which I could not read a font. There was never a single situation where highlighting did not fix that problem. Despite Firefox's inability to render the shadow/glow effect, I continued using it because the technical support and customizability make it a preferable browser to Microsoft's IE.
Mozilla/Netscape occupy less than five percent of the browser market. Disabling a feature 95% of users can utilize because of the complaints of a few does not make sense. It would seem that in order to attract new members, one would want features that are fun to customize and use. Removing features without so much as a "by-your-leave" or considering the number of users who took pride in their multicolored fonts is a direct slap in the face to Neopets users.
Claiming that Mozilla and Netscape users were unable to read anything using shadow/glow fonts is incorrect. My younger siblings, <name witheld> and <name witheld>, use Netscape on their computer because IE is unsafe. Again, they have not found a post illegible that could be made legible by highlighting. (Incidentally, I am using Firefox on XP Pro; they are using Netscape 7.1 on Win98)
Denying users access to this function because of a supposed error is an inconvenience. Giving an incorrect reasoning is worse. Netscape/Mozilla browsers will render the fonts, minus glow and shadow effects. Some fonts whose primary color is white would appear invisible, true enough. But claiming that users were "unable to read anything" is wrong. Period. Tell us what you want, but don't feed us an incorrect line of reasoning.
If you will pardon my rant...TNT has played this one the wrong way...It's one thing to say that the shadow/glow function isn't supported by Mozilla and Netscape (which it isn't), but it's another thing entirely to say that users can't read anything at all.
Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:33 am
Armi wrote:CrewWolf wrote:Darklegendary wrote:Yay, glow fonts are removed! The NT comics were so funny, I laughed so hard!
Here are some good ones:
http://www.neopets.com/ntimes/index.pht ... 9&week=153 (Nef makes such awesome flash movies!
That one made me laugh
I have to agree. This one was really good. I was getting a little bored with the comics too. I almost didn't read them this time around.
Re: About those darned fonts...
Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:46 am
ze_spy wrote:Mozilla/Netscape occupy less than five percent of the browser market. Disabling a feature 95% of users can utilize because of the complaints of a few does not make sense. It would seem that in order to attract new members, one would want features that are fun to customize and use. Removing features without so much as a "by-your-leave" or considering the number of users who took pride in their multicolored fonts is a direct slap in the face to Neopets users.
From what I've read it sounds like the annoyed users who don't use Mozilla or Netscape too though. I don't think they should've gotten rid of glow and shadow fonts either though. Just made it so they would appear black to Mozilla/Netscape and other users who chose for them to appear that way.
But the way neopets is right now it is easier for them to remove stuff rather then do the smarter thing.
Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:47 am
The staff simply isn't large enough to handle a Web site with as many users as Neopets. They need more monitors and more programmers. Neither of which, it would appear they've added in more than 18 months.
IMO, they need to hire more monitors. Then they can reallocate their programmers to the programming aspect...and get rid of those idiot boards faster...
IMO, they need to hire more monitors. Then they can reallocate their programmers to the programming aspect...and get rid of those idiot boards faster...
Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:58 am
Thank you Donna for addressing this issue:
Lol. I loved this. I would say that maybe now I will get less neomails telling me things in my shop are priced too high, but it probably won't change at all.
Some people make every thing in their shop 1000,000 and over whitch means the only thing you can do is look. This is hardly fair,is it - Mjs_wannabe
It is fair. It is totally up to the shop owner how much they price their items. Some people do not want to sell their things, just have them on display so other people can admire their collections.
Lol. I loved this. I would say that maybe now I will get less neomails telling me things in my shop are priced too high, but it probably won't change at all.