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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:14 am 
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But they should make a premium only avatar. $7.99 a month and not even an exclusive avatar...

I wouldn't be happy with that. I'd be quitting Neo faster than anyone can say "Bye bye", Coco Roller was bad enough but at least if you can find someone nice they can give you a code. Having something available only to Premium members goes beyond that.


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But they should make a premium only avatar. $7.99 a month and not even an exclusive avatar...

I wouldn't be happy with that. I'd be quitting Neo faster than anyone can say "Bye bye", Coco Roller was bad enough but at least if you can find someone nice they can give you a code. Having something available only to Premium members goes beyond that.


But can you see why it isn't fair to Premium members either? When you go to sign up for Premium, one of the promised perks is an avatar. When you sign up, you find out that it's the same avatar anyone can get through regular on-site neomail. If TNT is not going to give Premium members their own special avatar, they need to either remove that from the list of benefits, or modify the Neomail Addict avatar so that it can only be obtained by purchasing Premium from now on. Otherwise, what's the point of promising that at all?


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But can you see why it isn't fair to Premium members either? When you go to sign up for Premium, one of the promised perks is an avatar. When you sign up, you find out that it's the same avatar anyone can get through regular on-site neomail. If TNT is not going to give Premium members their own special avatar, they need to either remove that from the list of benefits, or modify the Neomail Addict avatar so that it can only be obtained by purchasing Premium from now on. Otherwise, what's the point of promising that at all?

I can see how it is unfair but only as far as being told you can get an avatar that you are already capable of getting, nothing more.


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But they should make a premium only avatar. $7.99 a month and not even an exclusive avatar...

I wouldn't be happy with that. I'd be quitting Neo faster than anyone can say "Bye bye", Coco Roller was bad enough but at least if you can find someone nice they can give you a code. Having something available only to Premium members goes beyond that.

That coco roller avatar was UNFAIR. Only americans could get it and if you get a code now and u live in australia u cant enter it because they changed the australian version of http://www.neopets.com/mobile. Now all it is some wallpaper downloads for your mobile.


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winter wrote:
But they should make a premium only avatar. $7.99 a month and not even an exclusive avatar...

I wouldn't be happy with that. I'd be quitting Neo faster than anyone can say "Bye bye", Coco Roller was bad enough but at least if you can find someone nice they can give you a code. Having something available only to Premium members goes beyond that.

That coco roller avatar was UNFAIR. Only americans could get it and if you get a code now and u live in australia u cant enter it because they changed the australian version of http://www.neopets.com/mobile. Now all it is some wallpaper downloads for your mobile.

Actually, I'm from Australia and I had the same problem with not having anywhere to enter the code when I tried to get the avatar on an additional account. If you go to Google and type in "coco roller" and then where you've got the "Neopets - Mobile Phones!" option don't go to that link but go to the relevant "Cached" link (a previously saved version of the page). You should then get taken to a page with the box to enter your number on (just make sure you are currently logged-in to your account in another window) :D It worked when I got the avatar a month or so ago, good luck!


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But they should make a premium only avatar. $7.99 a month and not even an exclusive avatar...

I wouldn't be happy with that. I'd be quitting Neo faster than anyone can say "Bye bye", Coco Roller was bad enough but at least if you can find someone nice they can give you a code. Having something available only to Premium members goes beyond that.

That coco roller avatar was UNFAIR. Only americans could get it and if you get a code now and u live in australia u cant enter it because they changed the australian version of http://www.neopets.com/mobile. Now all it is some wallpaper downloads for your mobile.

Actually, I'm from Australia and I had the same problem with not having anywhere to enter the code when I tried to get the avatar on an additional account. If you go to Google and type in "coco roller" and then where you've got the "Neopets - Mobile Phones!" option don't go to that link but go to the relevant "Cached" link (a previously saved version of the page). You should then get taken to a page with the box to enter your number on (just make sure you are currently logged-in to your account in another window) :D It worked when I got the avatar a month or so ago, good luck!

Thanks heaps for that. :D


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Still, it's only one avatar for god sakes that would be exclusive to Premium members. There are over 200 other avatars for you to choose from, so I don't think one little avatar is going to make much difference.

And I don't really see how you could be angry over the coco roller one... it was just plain ugly :P


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Still, it's only one avatar for god sakes that would be exclusive to Premium members. There are over 200 other avatars for you to choose from, so I don't think one little avatar is going to make much difference.

And I don't really see how you could be angry over the coco roller one... it was just plain ugly :P


Well, to collectors it matters. It would be another avatar that some people would never be able to get, either because they can't pay for Neopets or they aren't willing to. You may say "Oh well, whatever, no big deal" but it IS a big deal to people who really enjoy collecting avs.

*shrug* Like I said before, I can see it from both sides. As a Premium member, I wouldn't mind getting an exclusive av, which is something I was promised but never received when I signed up (especially since I already had the Neomail Addict avatar). But I also see where it's very unfair to non-Prems, and for that reason I hope they don't do it.

Maybe a better solution to the problem would be giving Premium members the option to choose any other avatar they don't already have (aside from the retired avatars, like the Mystery Island plot ones, or the TCG tournament one).


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Still, it's only one avatar for god sakes that would be exclusive to Premium members. There are over 200 other avatars for you to choose from, so I don't think one little avatar is going to make much difference.

And I don't really see how you could be angry over the coco roller one... it was just plain ugly :P


Well, to collectors it matters. It would be another avatar that some people would never be able to get, either because they can't pay for Neopets or they aren't willing to. You may say "Oh well, whatever, no big deal" but it IS a big deal to people who really enjoy collecting avs.

*shrug* Like I said before, I can see it from both sides. As a Premium member, I wouldn't mind getting an exclusive av, which is something I was promised but never received when I signed up (especially since I already had the Neomail Addict avatar). But I also see where it's very unfair to non-Prems, and for that reason I hope they don't do it.

Maybe a better solution to the problem would be giving Premium members the option to choose any other avatar they don't already have (aside from the retired avatars, like the Mystery Island plot ones, or the TCG tournament one).


But what would be the point of a collection if you could easily get every avatar out there?

And I like your idea for allowing premium members to choose any avatar they'd like as their "promised avatar."


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winter wrote:
But what would be the point of a collection if you could easily get every avatar out there?


That's a good point. Sort of takes all the fun out of it, I guess. I'm personally not a collector, so I don't really care. I actually use only one avatar most of the time anyway (Harris ^^).

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And I like your idea for allowing premium members to choose any avatar they'd like as their "promised avatar."


Thanks. :) Though I'm sure the non-Prem community would be outraged by that as well. Especially when everyone chose the Super Attack-Pea av or the BGC av. :roll:


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I have to say if I got to pick 1 av to have out of all the avs that there are, I would consider signing up for premium, that and if they price went down.

Almost $100 a year is too much if you ask me for what is offered.


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winter wrote:
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Still, it's only one avatar for god sakes that would be exclusive to Premium members. There are over 200 other avatars for you to choose from, so I don't think one little avatar is going to make much difference.

And I don't really see how you could be angry over the coco roller one... it was just plain ugly :P


Well, to collectors it matters. It would be another avatar that some people would never be able to get, either because they can't pay for Neopets or they aren't willing to. You may say "Oh well, whatever, no big deal" but it IS a big deal to people who really enjoy collecting avs.

*shrug* Like I said before, I can see it from both sides. As a Premium member, I wouldn't mind getting an exclusive av, which is something I was promised but never received when I signed up (especially since I already had the Neomail Addict avatar). But I also see where it's very unfair to non-Prems, and for that reason I hope they don't do it.

Maybe a better solution to the problem would be giving Premium members the option to choose any other avatar they don't already have (aside from the retired avatars, like the Mystery Island plot ones, or the TCG tournament one).


But what would be the point of a collection if you could easily get every avatar out there?


Being capable of getting every avatar isn't about ease, it's about being a collector and being competitive. Never was anything said about not having difficult avatars but having avatars that start to reach out into real life is just not right on so many levels - many people would never have the opportunity of even getting an avatar that concerns real money, not everyone is as financially sound as everyone else.


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Being capable of getting every avatar isn't about ease, it's about being a collector and being competitive. Never was anything said about not having difficult avatars but having avatars that start to reach out into real life is just not right on so many levels - many people would never have the opportunity of even getting an avatar that concerns real money, not everyone is as financially sound as everyone else.


Well that's already been done with the whole coco-roller av. You had to pay for the game for your cellphone, it was only certain cellphones and really only available in the US. Yes, I know there's alot of nice people who gave codes to others to get that av. But the fact is, whoever got that avi first DID pay for it in real money. And for awhile people were being warned/frozen for either giving or getting the codes on the ac. I guess TNT gave up on that. Technically, to me, getting a code for a paid game that you didn't pay for is cheating in a way *shrug*.

And there was talk of a new wireless carrier joining with Neo with special places to visit, special pets, who knows maybe even another special avatar. You know that's going to cost money just in cell minutes. Which probably is a whole lot more than 7.99 a month premium members pay.


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Being capable of getting every avatar isn't about ease, it's about being a collector and being competitive. Never was anything said about not having difficult avatars but having avatars that start to reach out into real life is just not right on so many levels - many people would never have the opportunity of even getting an avatar that concerns real money, not everyone is as financially sound as everyone else.


Well that's already been done with the whole coco-roller av. You had to pay for the game for your cellphone, it was only certain cellphones and really only available in the US. Yes, I know there's alot of nice people who gave codes to others to get that av. But the fact is, whoever got that avi first DID pay for it in real money. And for awhile people were being warned/frozen for either giving or getting the codes on the ac. I guess TNT gave up on that. Technically, to me, getting a code for a paid game that you didn't pay for is cheating in a way *shrug*.

And there was talk of a new wireless carrier joining with Neo with special places to visit, special pets, who knows maybe even another special avatar. You know that's going to cost money just in cell minutes. Which probably is a whole lot more than 7.99 a month premium members pay.


I already mentioned something about the Coco Roll in one of my previous posts. In my opinion I see this whole "pay for avatars" thing as an issue of opportunity - making people pay stops many from having the opportunity to collect and stay competitive, it is not fair. That's my main argument and my main point, I don't think anything else really needs to be said, I think to a large degree we are all in agreement we are just wandering in circles trying to find a comment that satisfies everyone.


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And there was talk of a new wireless carrier joining with Neo with special places to visit, special pets, who knows maybe even another special avatar. You know that's going to cost money just in cell minutes. Which probably is a whole lot more than 7.99 a month premium members pay.


I just took one of their survey's recently (I like taking them for merchandise sneak peeks ;)) and one of them was focused completely on cellphones and what images you may have liked for your cell phone. Plus, I think I remember reading something about a cell phone contract being signed in one of the many movie articles. So I wouldn't be suprised if there will be things like that in a few months. Hopefully it's not a pet though :roll:


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