Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:21 pm
WockyChocky wrote:Chipper wrote:Slime Lord wrote:WockyChocky wrote:This is the 1st of the month, and this guy already has 6 wins on a game that only allows you 3 wins a day.
Username Total Wins | Type of Win | Winning Position | Number of Wins
gajigaji - prizes 6 | Score Totals | 2 1
| Tally 3 3
| Tally 4 2
That's something I found odd my self when they first realsed this, and it was a huge flashing red light telling me people where cheating some way some how already
I have 6 wins but I had 3 scores from the last time they had the game that were not processed from the midnight game. When they brought the game back for this month I already had wins and hadent even started playing for the day yet.
No... if you had 3 scores, they would all be processed in one hour, giving you at most one prize.
Not if you keep playing as many games as you can in one hour if you play like 6 or 7 games they are not always going to be processed in that hour especially if it's a game where they are lucky to get 5 players an hour. Also you could still loose all those games and not to a peice because your winnings are not above 0.
Has that been a new change? I played Whack-a-Kass a few weeks ago and didn't get my unpaired scores matched up until I paid again.
You would not have had to rejoin for the next hour your scores would carry over and be processed when another member subumit there score.
Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:51 am
The point is that no matter how you work it, those three scores from yesterday should only get you one prize (or no prize), not three. Wether there are lots of people in the next hour, or a trickle so slow it takes 3 or more hours to complete, you should not be able to get 3 prizes from one WC competition.
A-hah! I found the bug and the cheat for it ... In one hour, you submit about 30 good scores. Since it only checks how many prizes you have earned that day when you enter, you enter those 30 scores before you win. Then you've got a long queue of winning scores waiting to get paired and you can win pieces hour after hour, because they dont check before awarding the prize.
PS I would not recommend that cause it's probably against a rule.
A-hah! I found the bug and the cheat for it ... In one hour, you submit about 30 good scores. Since it only checks how many prizes you have earned that day when you enter, you enter those 30 scores before you win. Then you've got a long queue of winning scores waiting to get paired and you can win pieces hour after hour, because they dont check before awarding the prize.
PS I would not recommend that cause it's probably against a rule.
Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:14 am
That will not work. If I win my three pieces, and a score from my third hour carries over into a fourth and I end up winning that fourth competition, I get a neomail saying "you WOULD have won a piece, but you already got three today, blah blah blah etc."
I don't know what you're trying to argue here. There's no way those three scores can get you three prizes.
Hour one: You submit three scores. One other person enters, so your first score gets matched with them. No one else enters. Since there are just two players, no one wins a prize. WC carries over into...
Hour two: One more person enters. They submit one score, so your second score gets matched with them, leaving you with one pending score. Now there are three players, but no one else enters, so we carry over into...
Hour three: Two more people enter. One sends one score and one sends two. One score gets matched with your third one and the other two gets matched against each other. Now there are five players, so those of you who are above the line get one piece each.
You can still enter two more WCs and win two more pieces for the day, but as far as those scores go, you are done.
The only way to win three pieces with three scores is to do what I do and go for high score for the hour (which means sending ONE score in an hour), or find a game where you just need one win for tally. If you send three scores in one hour, you can not win three pieces with those scores. The most you can get is two -- if it works like this:
Hour one: There are already four or more players. You enter late in the hour and submit three scores. One gets matched and it's enough for a high-score win. You win a piece that hour and your other two scores get carried over into...
Hour two, where they get matched against other people and you win a second piece. There is very little chance that only one of them will get matched in this hour, unless only one other person enters (in which case it'll carry over into a new hour and you won't get a piece anyway). So the highest number of pieces you can get if you send three scores all at once is two.
The point is that no matter how you work it, those three scores from yesterday should only get you one prize (or no prize), not three. Wether there are lots of people in the next hour, or a trickle so slow it takes 3 or more hours to complete, you should not be able to get 3 prizes from one WC competition.
I don't know what you're trying to argue here. There's no way those three scores can get you three prizes.
Hour one: You submit three scores. One other person enters, so your first score gets matched with them. No one else enters. Since there are just two players, no one wins a prize. WC carries over into...
Hour two: One more person enters. They submit one score, so your second score gets matched with them, leaving you with one pending score. Now there are three players, but no one else enters, so we carry over into...
Hour three: Two more people enter. One sends one score and one sends two. One score gets matched with your third one and the other two gets matched against each other. Now there are five players, so those of you who are above the line get one piece each.
You can still enter two more WCs and win two more pieces for the day, but as far as those scores go, you are done.
The only way to win three pieces with three scores is to do what I do and go for high score for the hour (which means sending ONE score in an hour), or find a game where you just need one win for tally. If you send three scores in one hour, you can not win three pieces with those scores. The most you can get is two -- if it works like this:
Hour one: There are already four or more players. You enter late in the hour and submit three scores. One gets matched and it's enough for a high-score win. You win a piece that hour and your other two scores get carried over into...
Hour two, where they get matched against other people and you win a second piece. There is very little chance that only one of them will get matched in this hour, unless only one other person enters (in which case it'll carry over into a new hour and you won't get a piece anyway). So the highest number of pieces you can get if you send three scores all at once is two.
Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:10 am
Cranberry,
We are in agreement. Someone earlier said they had won 6 prizes on day 1 because of scores carried over from the day before, and I was responding that that would be impossible... and just talked too long about it.
I'm glad to hear that they count before they hand out the prizes, too. I would like to know how to get 6 map pieces in one day (not that I ever have before). When you got that "Would have" mail, did you score a win for that WC that day?
We are in agreement. Someone earlier said they had won 6 prizes on day 1 because of scores carried over from the day before, and I was responding that that would be impossible... and just talked too long about it.
I'm glad to hear that they count before they hand out the prizes, too. I would like to know how to get 6 map pieces in one day (not that I ever have before). When you got that "Would have" mail, did you score a win for that WC that day?
Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:55 am
During the first few days of this "new" WC, it was buggy and some people weren't limited to three pieces per day. They could just keep entering and playing and earning pieces. Also, TNT hadn't safeguarded against scores carrying over into a fourth hour (which WOULD get you a piece then), and they also hadn't safeguarded against people entering three or more different WCs in their final hour and winning pieces from all of them (so one day I won a Volcano Run WC in hour 1, another in hour 2, and the VRun, Destruct-O-Match II and Faerie Bubbles ones in hour 3 and ended up with five pieces). A few of us bug-reported this, and that's when TNT instituted the whole thing where you can enter and win as many times as you want and you'll get points on the WC high score tables, but you can only earn three pieces.
Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:53 am
Cranberry wrote:There's no way those three scores can get you three prizes.
Hour one: You submit three scores. One other person enters, so your first score gets matched with them. No one else enters. Since there are just two players, no one wins a prize. WC carries over into...
Hour two: One more person enters. They submit one score, so your second score gets matched with them, leaving you with one pending score. Now there are three players, but no one else enters, so we carry over into...
Hour three: Two more people enter. One sends one score and one sends two. One score gets matched with your third one and the other two gets matched against each other. Now there are five players, so those of you who are above the line get one piece each.
You can still enter two more WCs and win two more pieces for the day, but as far as those scores go, you are done.
The only way to win three pieces with three scores is to do what I do and go for high score for the hour (which means sending ONE score in an hour), or find a game where you just need one win for tally. If you send three scores in one hour, you can not win three pieces with those scores. The most you can get is two -- if it works like this:
Hour one: There are already four or more players. You enter late in the hour and submit three scores. One gets matched and it's enough for a high-score win. You win a piece that hour and your other two scores get carried over into...
Hour two, where they get matched against other people and you win a second piece. There is very little chance that only one of them will get matched in this hour, unless only one other person enters (in which case it'll carry over into a new hour and you won't get a piece anyway). So the highest number of pieces you can get if you send three scores all at once is two.
Actually, technically you could win three pieces with three scores in one hour, you'd just have to get really really lucky.
Hour one: send three very high scores right at the end. Only one of them gets paired. You win a piece.
Hour two: Five other people submit scores, all at the same time. They're randomly paired up with each other, and only one of yours gets picked. No one else enters that hour.
Hour three: (normal)
...But as you can see, the chances of that happening are quite low, to say the least and I'm just being pedantic here.
Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:31 am
Quit trying to confuse people, dolph.
I'm not sure that would work, anyway, as I think scores get paired up in the order they're sent (unless they're coming from the same IP), so your pending score would get paired with one of those five people, and one of the others would be the odd guy out. But that doesn't really matter, because this thread is about the changes and how much they suck. So, uh... grr. CHANGES SUCK!
I'm not sure that would work, anyway, as I think scores get paired up in the order they're sent (unless they're coming from the same IP), so your pending score would get paired with one of those five people, and one of the others would be the odd guy out. But that doesn't really matter, because this thread is about the changes and how much they suck. So, uh... grr. CHANGES SUCK!
Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:49 pm
This is more of a flash games complaint than a WC complaint, but my game finally shows up (hungry skeith) so I enter the challenge (this game takes a little while to get a winning score). Game #1 I got a review score, that was my fault, careless. Oops. #2 the score sticks on sending. Not my fault, and lame. 12 minutes left to get in a winning score. Not sure if that's enough time, but might as well try:)
Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:49 pm
Ugh, I hate it when they're having server issues and the score won't go through. The other day I got a 2385 in Faerie Bubbles (which would have been good enough for high score for the hour), and it wouldn't send. It's not our fault when that happens... they should have some sort of "retry score send" option instead of just making us lose the score.
Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:17 am
I agree with the "resend" option. Spending a couple of hours playing Sutek's Tomb for a trophy and getting the Red Message of Death about the servers is just plain mean.
There's also a strange problem with Word Pyramid that causes an error message and makes the game go *poof*. Very frustrating when there's no time to restart and send an acceptable score within the WC hour limit. According to the error report details there's an add-on causing the problem. The add-on is a little something called "Flash".
I'm not the only person having this problem but of course the response from TNT to bug reports is the usual generic nonsense.
At this point I'm so disappointed by the results of the WC changes that my usual three+ hours a day on the site has been reduced to five minutes. At least I have my life back.
There's also a strange problem with Word Pyramid that causes an error message and makes the game go *poof*. Very frustrating when there's no time to restart and send an acceptable score within the WC hour limit. According to the error report details there's an add-on causing the problem. The add-on is a little something called "Flash".
I'm not the only person having this problem but of course the response from TNT to bug reports is the usual generic nonsense.
At this point I'm so disappointed by the results of the WC changes that my usual three+ hours a day on the site has been reduced to five minutes. At least I have my life back.
Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:20 am
Correction WockyChocky
no one ever said they won 6 prizes I said I had wins before I played the games on the all time and monthly scores. These wins were carred over from scores but only 3 game peices are awarded in a single day. I started out with 3 wins then the 3 games I played put me in first place with 6 wins. I hope this clears thing up.
no one ever said they won 6 prizes I said I had wins before I played the games on the all time and monthly scores. These wins were carred over from scores but only 3 game peices are awarded in a single day. I started out with 3 wins then the 3 games I played put me in first place with 6 wins. I hope this clears thing up.
Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:39 am
Oh joy... now all I need is a Faerieland 2.12 piece to complete my map. I really hate the "straight to inventory" thing. Seriously, I lost three codestones trying to get people to bite on my pieces up for trade. (Strangely enough, it was the same person who bid on all three). Should I just buy it, and hope to sell the replacement later (that I'm going to win in about 20 minutes)? Or should I put it up for trade and hope for the best?
EDIT: Converted it. Got a Zed Codestone
EDIT: Converted it. Got a Zed Codestone
Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:24 am
WockyChocky wrote:
When you got that "Would have" mail, did you score a win for that WC that day?
Yep. I just got another one... here's what it looks like.
You would have won a picture piece for placing in Destruct-O-Match II, but you have already acquired the max pieces for today. However, your scores still register in the World Challenge Winners tables.
Of course, since we don't get trophies or prizes or anything for appearing in those tables, I still don't see the point -- I'm not going to sit around competing for hours just so my name will be at the top.
Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:01 am
Slightly offtopic, but...
I faintly remember having this dream that my score didn't send right, and there was an option to resend it. I was like "WOW! The folks at PPT will love this!"
If only it were true. xD Dreams are weird, I didn't remember that one 'till just now when I re-visted this thread.
I faintly remember having this dream that my score didn't send right, and there was an option to resend it. I was like "WOW! The folks at PPT will love this!"
If only it were true. xD Dreams are weird, I didn't remember that one 'till just now when I re-visted this thread.
Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:08 pm
I'm probably wrong as I don't do a whole lot of WC anymore, but I thought your non-paired scores only passed to the next hour if there was no winner for the current hour? I never tested that specifically, only know that in the past I'd submit several scores, have unpaired left at the end, and on winning a piece rejoin the next hour with no scores pending...