Lost Desert Plot Discussion #26 (Split)
Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:23 am
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Continue with all the plotting here
Previous thread: http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20691
- The plot
- The Fortune Teller
- The Temple of One-Thousand Tombs
Here is an example of a map: http://tim.arlott.com/jas/tombmap.jpg
It is Jasujo's map that she made using the grid method posted by Cerise. Of course, there are many methods, this is just one to give you an idea.
Here is a handmade map by XenaAndGabrielle: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/ ... ap-XaG.jpg
with an explanation of how she goes about it here.
Here is another map made by Twisted Sanity, who uses yet another mapping method: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/te ... ombmap.gif
Known Facts:
Eveyone's tomb, doors, and phrases are different.
Your tomb is the same to you each time you enter it.
All passages seem to be two way. You should be able to return to the room you came from. The door may not be in the same position, but one of the doors will return you.
There are three library doors and one statue room in each tomb. In the libraries, you can read a scroll, but the effects haven't been found yet. The statue asks for a prophecy, but the correct one hasn't been found yet.
Library doors
The libraries should have these scrolls:
river - Fer, Djo, Tep, Kar
maze - Ben, Lat, Saf, Nem
astral - Ra, Set, Ahn, Kha
Here is an image posted my mcgeorge on neoitems displaying all the symbols and scrolls with their names.
Here is a post listing the item descriptions of each of the scrolls.
There are about 85 rooms, 5 doors in each room (a few might have a blank wall), and a total of around 425 doors.
If you read a scroll, you can't enter for 12 hours. If you get caught in a trap, you can't enter for 1-3 hours and your pet may temporarily be turned to a pile of sand.
There are 6 door colors and 4 door shapes. The riddles will only tell you the color and shape of the door you need.
Shapes:
A humble portal of stone (rectangle) [just a regular old door]
Mouth of the river (triangle) [think about it ... the place where a river starts will look like a triangle ... because it starts flowing out]
The aspect of a star (pentagon) [5 sides to a standard star]
Window into the soul (oval) [your eyes are ovalish]
Colors:
Blinding radiance of the sun (yellow) [the sun]
Thunderous clouds obscuring the sky (black) [makes it dark]
The waking dawn on the dunes (red) [at dawn, thing all look red]
Banks of the mighty river (green) [everything is green on the banks]
Kingdom of the lightgiver (blue) [the sky is the sun's (lightgiver's) kingdom ... and it is blue]
Bright guardian of the night (silver) [The moon is sort of silverish]
The combination does not tell you which symbol you need, but does limit your search to 12 possible doors to find your statue in.
After you find the Nuria faerie statue and go back to your library and read the scroll with the symbol that was on the statue's base, your pet now understands it. Nothing else has been seen to come of this as of yet, though.
The fortune teller's phrase has changed to: "I see ancient pharaohs laid at rest." You supposedly need to visit her and see this before moving on.
Then if you play a game of Pyramids, at the end you should see a parchment on the bottom of your screen. This looks to be a clue to rooms as each column has a number, color, symbol, and shape.
If you go the room under the single dot that your parchment describes, you will get an RE which gives you a dirty stone piece. Take that to the toy repair shop and you get a piece on your tablet. If you then go to the fortune teller, her phrase is changed:
"So... you've returned," she says. "Something remarkable is happening. I am receiving many images in my crystal ball, images of strange, distant places..."
"...yet I can't make out these images just now. Perhaps something will appear soon. You may view the Mysterious Tablet if you wish."
If the dirty stone piece that you get from your trapped room ends up being destroyed by Donny at the Toy Repair Shop (he sometimes has trouble cleaning it for some reason), then all you will need to do is go back to the temple immediately. Do not wait. You will receive a new piece that you can bring to Donny to try cleaning up.
A while after the first piece of your tablet is filled in, the fortune teller changes to this clue: "I see debris on a frigid battlefield."
That leads you to play a game of Snow Wars (not the flash game, the original HTML Battleship-like one), after which you should find your second parchment. On this one, you find the door under the double dots.
After the second piece, the fortune teller changes again, "I see a rivalry of five."
That leads you to place a bet and feed one of the poogle in Poogle Races to get the third parchment once you've placed your bet. On the third parchment, you find the door under the triple dots.
After the third piece, the fortune teller gives the next clue: "I see fortunes cast upon the waters."
This leads you to go to the Underwater Cavern. Simply go fishing, and you'll find the fourth parchment. You'll find the door under the four dots.
For the fifth clue, go to the fortune teller and get this message: "I see countless eyes." Then lose at Potato Counter and that gives you your next parchment. Find the door under the five dots and you're on your way.
On the sixth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see a great deal of fun." If you spin the Wheel of Mediocrity, then try to spin a second time, you'll get your sixth parchment. Find the door under the six dots to get the next piece.
On the seventh clue, the fortune teller will tell you "I see a rule that must be broken" Go to the Lever of Doom, and a pull will get you the parchment. You must have 100np on hand. The door under the seven dots will get your next piece.
The eighth clue, you are told: "Today's lotto number is [numbers]" Go to Kreludor, and fill in the Mining Corp. with the numbers, different to everybody. This'll get you the eighth piece of parchment, which will tell you which room to go to beneath the eight dot header.
For the ninth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see a tournament that rolled on." Go to The Krawk Island Deckball Championships. Then click on Players. If you scroll down, you will see Prince Jazan's name. Click on it and you will get your parchment. Follow the door under nines dots.
For the tenth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see a chia resting by a tree." Have one of your pets take a Tiki Tour. Your parchment should be on the first page after you sign up for the tour. Find the door under the ten dots.
For the eleventh clue, the fortune teller says: "I see you lost in the darkness." Play a game of Fetch while seeking any Faerie Dust (refresh the request screen until you get that for your quest.). Your parchment should appear at the lose screen (you do not need to find the item). Find the door under the eleven dots.
For the twelvth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see you giving into your dreams." Wish for a Hieroglyph Fragment at the Wishing Well and make a donation. Follow the door under the twelve dots.
Also, it seems the new clues are coming out at about 1:30 and 7:30 NST, every six hours.
Completed your Tablet?
Once you have done that, go and look at the first 3 comics for the plot. The symbols are embedded within the comic! Here's a list of where you can find the appropriate symbols:
LAT & FER (cup & paw) on 1-1
KHA (fish) on 1-2
SAF (the Y-thing) on 1-3
----------------
AHN (ankh) on 2-1
SET & RA (pillar & sun) on 2-2
TEP (eye) on 2-3
-------------------
DJO (2 flags) on 3-1
BEN (chick) on 3-2
NEM (river) on 3-3
KAR (leaf) on 3-4
If you hover over them, you can click it. Click them in the order as you see on your tablet, reading LEFT TO RIGHT, Top row to Bottom Row. If a symbol comes up 2x in a row, click it twice. 3x, click it 3x. (etc) Once you have done that correctly, a pop up will come up. It redirects you to the tablet, with an avatar + a translation to what the tablet means. Surprise, surprise, everyone's translation's are slightly different!
Now, go to the room that had the faerie in it. Tell it the translation that you were given to the statue. At the next screen, be sure to scroll all the way down. It's a bit long, but it's interesting.
Once you have submitted your translation, you will end back up in front of the statue. You can get out of that room by submitting an incorrect translation. You'll incur the regular lockout time and then start back in front of the tomb.
The Lost Desert map has changed and Sakhmet as well as other places have disappeared.
Continue with all the plotting here
Previous thread: http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20691
- The plot
- The Fortune Teller
- The Temple of One-Thousand Tombs
Here is an example of a map: http://tim.arlott.com/jas/tombmap.jpg
It is Jasujo's map that she made using the grid method posted by Cerise. Of course, there are many methods, this is just one to give you an idea.
Here is a handmade map by XenaAndGabrielle: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/ ... ap-XaG.jpg
with an explanation of how she goes about it here.
Here is another map made by Twisted Sanity, who uses yet another mapping method: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/te ... ombmap.gif
Known Facts:
Eveyone's tomb, doors, and phrases are different.
Your tomb is the same to you each time you enter it.
All passages seem to be two way. You should be able to return to the room you came from. The door may not be in the same position, but one of the doors will return you.
There are three library doors and one statue room in each tomb. In the libraries, you can read a scroll, but the effects haven't been found yet. The statue asks for a prophecy, but the correct one hasn't been found yet.
Library doors
The libraries should have these scrolls:
river - Fer, Djo, Tep, Kar
maze - Ben, Lat, Saf, Nem
astral - Ra, Set, Ahn, Kha
Here is an image posted my mcgeorge on neoitems displaying all the symbols and scrolls with their names.
Here is a post listing the item descriptions of each of the scrolls.
There are about 85 rooms, 5 doors in each room (a few might have a blank wall), and a total of around 425 doors.
If you read a scroll, you can't enter for 12 hours. If you get caught in a trap, you can't enter for 1-3 hours and your pet may temporarily be turned to a pile of sand.
There are 6 door colors and 4 door shapes. The riddles will only tell you the color and shape of the door you need.
Shapes:
A humble portal of stone (rectangle) [just a regular old door]
Mouth of the river (triangle) [think about it ... the place where a river starts will look like a triangle ... because it starts flowing out]
The aspect of a star (pentagon) [5 sides to a standard star]
Window into the soul (oval) [your eyes are ovalish]
Colors:
Blinding radiance of the sun (yellow) [the sun]
Thunderous clouds obscuring the sky (black) [makes it dark]
The waking dawn on the dunes (red) [at dawn, thing all look red]
Banks of the mighty river (green) [everything is green on the banks]
Kingdom of the lightgiver (blue) [the sky is the sun's (lightgiver's) kingdom ... and it is blue]
Bright guardian of the night (silver) [The moon is sort of silverish]
The combination does not tell you which symbol you need, but does limit your search to 12 possible doors to find your statue in.
After you find the Nuria faerie statue and go back to your library and read the scroll with the symbol that was on the statue's base, your pet now understands it. Nothing else has been seen to come of this as of yet, though.
The fortune teller's phrase has changed to: "I see ancient pharaohs laid at rest." You supposedly need to visit her and see this before moving on.
Then if you play a game of Pyramids, at the end you should see a parchment on the bottom of your screen. This looks to be a clue to rooms as each column has a number, color, symbol, and shape.
If you go the room under the single dot that your parchment describes, you will get an RE which gives you a dirty stone piece. Take that to the toy repair shop and you get a piece on your tablet. If you then go to the fortune teller, her phrase is changed:
"So... you've returned," she says. "Something remarkable is happening. I am receiving many images in my crystal ball, images of strange, distant places..."
"...yet I can't make out these images just now. Perhaps something will appear soon. You may view the Mysterious Tablet if you wish."
If the dirty stone piece that you get from your trapped room ends up being destroyed by Donny at the Toy Repair Shop (he sometimes has trouble cleaning it for some reason), then all you will need to do is go back to the temple immediately. Do not wait. You will receive a new piece that you can bring to Donny to try cleaning up.
A while after the first piece of your tablet is filled in, the fortune teller changes to this clue: "I see debris on a frigid battlefield."
That leads you to play a game of Snow Wars (not the flash game, the original HTML Battleship-like one), after which you should find your second parchment. On this one, you find the door under the double dots.
After the second piece, the fortune teller changes again, "I see a rivalry of five."
That leads you to place a bet and feed one of the poogle in Poogle Races to get the third parchment once you've placed your bet. On the third parchment, you find the door under the triple dots.
After the third piece, the fortune teller gives the next clue: "I see fortunes cast upon the waters."
This leads you to go to the Underwater Cavern. Simply go fishing, and you'll find the fourth parchment. You'll find the door under the four dots.
For the fifth clue, go to the fortune teller and get this message: "I see countless eyes." Then lose at Potato Counter and that gives you your next parchment. Find the door under the five dots and you're on your way.
On the sixth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see a great deal of fun." If you spin the Wheel of Mediocrity, then try to spin a second time, you'll get your sixth parchment. Find the door under the six dots to get the next piece.
On the seventh clue, the fortune teller will tell you "I see a rule that must be broken" Go to the Lever of Doom, and a pull will get you the parchment. You must have 100np on hand. The door under the seven dots will get your next piece.
The eighth clue, you are told: "Today's lotto number is [numbers]" Go to Kreludor, and fill in the Mining Corp. with the numbers, different to everybody. This'll get you the eighth piece of parchment, which will tell you which room to go to beneath the eight dot header.
For the ninth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see a tournament that rolled on." Go to The Krawk Island Deckball Championships. Then click on Players. If you scroll down, you will see Prince Jazan's name. Click on it and you will get your parchment. Follow the door under nines dots.
For the tenth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see a chia resting by a tree." Have one of your pets take a Tiki Tour. Your parchment should be on the first page after you sign up for the tour. Find the door under the ten dots.
For the eleventh clue, the fortune teller says: "I see you lost in the darkness." Play a game of Fetch while seeking any Faerie Dust (refresh the request screen until you get that for your quest.). Your parchment should appear at the lose screen (you do not need to find the item). Find the door under the eleven dots.
For the twelvth clue, the fortune teller says: "I see you giving into your dreams." Wish for a Hieroglyph Fragment at the Wishing Well and make a donation. Follow the door under the twelve dots.
Also, it seems the new clues are coming out at about 1:30 and 7:30 NST, every six hours.
Completed your Tablet?
Once you have done that, go and look at the first 3 comics for the plot. The symbols are embedded within the comic! Here's a list of where you can find the appropriate symbols:
LAT & FER (cup & paw) on 1-1
KHA (fish) on 1-2
SAF (the Y-thing) on 1-3
----------------
AHN (ankh) on 2-1
SET & RA (pillar & sun) on 2-2
TEP (eye) on 2-3
-------------------
DJO (2 flags) on 3-1
BEN (chick) on 3-2
NEM (river) on 3-3
KAR (leaf) on 3-4
If you hover over them, you can click it. Click them in the order as you see on your tablet, reading LEFT TO RIGHT, Top row to Bottom Row. If a symbol comes up 2x in a row, click it twice. 3x, click it 3x. (etc) Once you have done that correctly, a pop up will come up. It redirects you to the tablet, with an avatar + a translation to what the tablet means. Surprise, surprise, everyone's translation's are slightly different!
Now, go to the room that had the faerie in it. Tell it the translation that you were given to the statue. At the next screen, be sure to scroll all the way down. It's a bit long, but it's interesting.
Once you have submitted your translation, you will end back up in front of the statue. You can get out of that room by submitting an incorrect translation. You'll incur the regular lockout time and then start back in front of the tomb.
The Lost Desert map has changed and Sakhmet as well as other places have disappeared.
Last edited by Matt on Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:32 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:36 am
Does anybody have any links to the places that have disappeared?
Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:39 am
I have the fruit machnie link and scratchcard
http://www.neopets.com/desert/fruitmachine.phtml
http://www.neopets.com/desert/sc/kiosk. ... 1127040005
http://www.neopets.com/desert/fruitmachine.phtml
http://www.neopets.com/desert/sc/kiosk. ... 1127040005
Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:16 am
Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:18 pm
I'm still stuck looking for my last tablet fragment >_< I've been looking for 2 days already and I still haven't found the right door.... serves me right for not making a decent map 
Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:55 pm
Argh, I got click happy and it registered me as clicking a gem door I wasn't supposed to. Now I'm locked out. -.-
I didn't make a decent map either. I just find them as I get them.
I didn't make a decent map either. I just find them as I get them.
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:03 pm
I didn't have any problems with finding the first 11 fragments... but this last door is just *uggh* 
*leaves temple to play NQ*
*leaves temple to play NQ*
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:08 pm
On page 3 of chapter 5 of the comic, Jazan has a blue/purple text balloon. First I thought it's because he has those blue/purple orbs in his hands... but maybe it's something significant, since he's talking about the prophecy.
maps
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:08 pm
i made myself a decent map and i got all my pieces, and my statue, and the scroll i "understand" but i still haven't found the third library . . .hope it's not important. lol
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:29 pm
I haven't put in any effort at all for this plot.. I feel bad... :\
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:45 pm
I'm about 14 doors away from this step (:P), but can someone tell me - is there a point to reading all the scrolls?
I know if your pet reads the one that corresponds to the symbol on the statue, it understands it, but is there any other use/point/need so far?
I know if your pet reads the one that corresponds to the symbol on the statue, it understands it, but is there any other use/point/need so far?
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:53 pm
Alex wrote:I'm about 14 doors away from this step (:P), but can someone tell me - is there a point to reading all the scrolls?
I know if your pet reads the one that corresponds to the symbol on the statue, it understands it, but is there any other use/point/need so far?
I don't believe anything has been proven yet. I've read three myself, including the scroll my pet "understood"
Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:04 pm
I am of the opinion that there WILL be a point to the scrolls. Use the waiting time to work on your maps.
Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:10 pm
stampsyne wrote:I am of the opinion that there WILL be a point to the scrolls. Use the waiting time to work on your maps.
I agree...otherwise what was the whole point of them? I also think there has to have some significance to the Hannah comic in the Lost Desert source. Why would it just be hanging around in there? I just don't know what, yet....I've tried many things and once my temple unlocks itself, I'm going to try a door or two....
Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:20 pm
The Lizard Queen wrote:On page 3 of chapter 5 of the comic, Jazan has a blue/purple text balloon. First I thought it's because he has those blue/purple orbs in his hands... but maybe it's something significant, since he's talking about the prophecy.
Yes, this and the two tower areas on the next page are definitely something to keep an eye on. I don't believe they do anything yet. But someone better versed in source code that I am might find something.
greenbugsy wrote:Alex wrote:I'm about 14 doors away from this step (:P), but can someone tell me - is there a point to reading all the scrolls?
I know if your pet reads the one that corresponds to the symbol on the statue, it understands it, but is there any other use/point/need so far?
I don't believe anything has been proven yet. I've read three myself, including the scroll my pet "understood"
Nope, nothing that we know of so far.
stampsyne wrote:I am of the opinion that there WILL be a point to the scrolls. Use the waiting time to work on your maps.
I agree.
Again, anyone interested in brain storming just for the heck of it, please see my post about the item scrolls descriptions and titles here http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=447262#447262
EDIT:
greenbugsy wrote:I agree...otherwise what was the whole point of them? I also think there has to have some significance to the Hannah comic in the Lost Desert source. Why would it just be hanging around in there? I just don't know what, yet....I've tried many things and once my temple unlocks itself, I'm going to try a door or two....
I believe when this was discussed it was decided that the only reason for it was so the header and footer from the HATIC plot could be re-used for the lost desert comics, without them having to add a new image to the server for each new page. In other words, they used the HATIC comic as a "skeleton" to make the new one and just saved the header and footer for the new one there.
And, good morning everyone!