Lost Desert Plot Discussion #9 (split)
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:20 pm
Continue here. I haven't really been following this puzzle (too time consuming), but I'll try to add to the summary anyway, with what I see from the last thread.
Previous thread: http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20465
- The plot
- The Fortune Teller
- The Temple of One-Thousand Tombs
Here is an example of a map: http://tim.arlott.com/jas/tombmap.jpg
It is Jasujo's map that she made using the grid method posted by Cerise. Of course, there are many methods, this is just one to give you an idea.
Known Facts:
Eveyone's tomb, doors, and phrases are different.
Your tomb is the same to you each time you enter it.
All passages seem to be two way. You should be able to return to the room you came from. The door may not be in the same position, but one of the doors will return you.
There are three library doors and one statue room in each tomb. In the libraries, you can read a scroll, but the effects haven't been found yet. The statue asks for a prophecy, but the correct one hasn't been found yet.
Library doors
There are 85 rooms, 5 doors in each room, and a total of around 425 doors.
If you read a scroll, you can't enter for 12 hours. If you get caught in a trap, you can't enter for 1-3 hours and your pet may temporarily be turned to a pile of sand.
There are 6 door colors and 4 door shapes. The riddles will only tell you the color and shape of the door you need.
Shapes:
A humble portal of stone (rectangle) [just a regular old door]
Mouth of the river (triangle) [think about it ... the place where a river starts will look like a triangle ... because it starts flowing out]
The aspect of a star (pentagon) [5 sides to a standard star]
Window into the soul (oval) [your eyes are ovalish]
Colors:
Blinding radiance of the sun (yellow) [the sun]
Thunderous clouds obscuring the sky (black) [makes it dark]
The waking dawn on the dunes (red) [at dawn, thing all look red]
Banks of the mighty river (green) [everything is green on the banks]
Kingdom of the lightgiver (blue) [the sky is the sun's (lightgiver's) kingdom ... and it is blue]
Bright guardian of the night (silver) [The moon is sort of silverish]
The combination does not tell you which symbol you need, but does limit your search to 12 possible doors to find your statue in.
After you find the Nuria faerie statue and go back to your library and read the scroll with the symbol that was on the statue's base, your pet now understands it. Nothing else has been seen to come of this as of yet, though.
The fortune teller's phrase has changed to: "I see ancient pharaohs laid at rest." You supposedly need to visit her and see this before moving on.
Then if you play a game of Pyramids, at the end you should see a parchment on the bottom of your screen. This looks to be a clue to rooms as each column has a number, color, symbol, and shape.
If you go the room under the single dot that your parchment describes, you will get an RE which gives you a dirty stone piece. Take that to the toy repair shop and you get a piece on your tablet. If you then go to the fortune teller, her phrase is changed:
"So... you've returned," she says. "Something remarkable is happening. I am receiving many images in my crystal ball, images of strange, distant places..."
"...yet I can't make out these images just now. Perhaps something will appear soon. You may view the Mysterious Tablet if you wish."
If the dirty stone piece that you get from your trapped room ends up being destroyed by Donny at the Toy Repair Shop (he sometimes has trouble cleaning it for some reason), then all you will need to do is go back to the temple immediately. Do not wait. You will receive a new piece that you can bring to Donny to try cleaning up.
A while after the first piece of your tablet is filled in, the fortune teller changes to this clue: "I see debris on a frigid battlefield."
That leads you to play a game of Snow Wars (not the flash game, the original HTML Battleship-like one), after which you should find your second parchment. On this one, you find the door under the double dots.
After the second piece, the fortune teller changes again, "I see a rivalry of five."
That leads you to place a bet and feed one of the poogle in Poogle Races to get the third parchment once you've placed your bet. On the third parchment, you find the door under the triple dots.
After the third piece, the fortune teller gives the next clue: "I see fortunes cast upon the waters."
This leads you to go to the Underwater Cavern. Simply go fishing, and you'll find the fourth parchment. You'll find the door under the four dots (see an example on XenaAndGabrielle's post here- it's the fourth column you should refer to).
Previous thread: http://www.pinkpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20465
- The plot
- The Fortune Teller
- The Temple of One-Thousand Tombs
Here is an example of a map: http://tim.arlott.com/jas/tombmap.jpg
It is Jasujo's map that she made using the grid method posted by Cerise. Of course, there are many methods, this is just one to give you an idea.
Known Facts:
Eveyone's tomb, doors, and phrases are different.
Your tomb is the same to you each time you enter it.
All passages seem to be two way. You should be able to return to the room you came from. The door may not be in the same position, but one of the doors will return you.
There are three library doors and one statue room in each tomb. In the libraries, you can read a scroll, but the effects haven't been found yet. The statue asks for a prophecy, but the correct one hasn't been found yet.
Library doors
There are 85 rooms, 5 doors in each room, and a total of around 425 doors.
If you read a scroll, you can't enter for 12 hours. If you get caught in a trap, you can't enter for 1-3 hours and your pet may temporarily be turned to a pile of sand.
There are 6 door colors and 4 door shapes. The riddles will only tell you the color and shape of the door you need.
Shapes:
A humble portal of stone (rectangle) [just a regular old door]
Mouth of the river (triangle) [think about it ... the place where a river starts will look like a triangle ... because it starts flowing out]
The aspect of a star (pentagon) [5 sides to a standard star]
Window into the soul (oval) [your eyes are ovalish]
Colors:
Blinding radiance of the sun (yellow) [the sun]
Thunderous clouds obscuring the sky (black) [makes it dark]
The waking dawn on the dunes (red) [at dawn, thing all look red]
Banks of the mighty river (green) [everything is green on the banks]
Kingdom of the lightgiver (blue) [the sky is the sun's (lightgiver's) kingdom ... and it is blue]
Bright guardian of the night (silver) [The moon is sort of silverish]
The combination does not tell you which symbol you need, but does limit your search to 12 possible doors to find your statue in.
After you find the Nuria faerie statue and go back to your library and read the scroll with the symbol that was on the statue's base, your pet now understands it. Nothing else has been seen to come of this as of yet, though.
The fortune teller's phrase has changed to: "I see ancient pharaohs laid at rest." You supposedly need to visit her and see this before moving on.
Then if you play a game of Pyramids, at the end you should see a parchment on the bottom of your screen. This looks to be a clue to rooms as each column has a number, color, symbol, and shape.
If you go the room under the single dot that your parchment describes, you will get an RE which gives you a dirty stone piece. Take that to the toy repair shop and you get a piece on your tablet. If you then go to the fortune teller, her phrase is changed:
"So... you've returned," she says. "Something remarkable is happening. I am receiving many images in my crystal ball, images of strange, distant places..."
"...yet I can't make out these images just now. Perhaps something will appear soon. You may view the Mysterious Tablet if you wish."
If the dirty stone piece that you get from your trapped room ends up being destroyed by Donny at the Toy Repair Shop (he sometimes has trouble cleaning it for some reason), then all you will need to do is go back to the temple immediately. Do not wait. You will receive a new piece that you can bring to Donny to try cleaning up.
A while after the first piece of your tablet is filled in, the fortune teller changes to this clue: "I see debris on a frigid battlefield."
That leads you to play a game of Snow Wars (not the flash game, the original HTML Battleship-like one), after which you should find your second parchment. On this one, you find the door under the double dots.
After the second piece, the fortune teller changes again, "I see a rivalry of five."
That leads you to place a bet and feed one of the poogle in Poogle Races to get the third parchment once you've placed your bet. On the third parchment, you find the door under the triple dots.
After the third piece, the fortune teller gives the next clue: "I see fortunes cast upon the waters."
This leads you to go to the Underwater Cavern. Simply go fishing, and you'll find the fourth parchment. You'll find the door under the four dots (see an example on XenaAndGabrielle's post here- it's the fourth column you should refer to).
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:26 pm
I think I'll suspend dailies until this plot is over. Wonder if a visit to Coltzan, Fruit Machine or Tombola is in the future? Wouldn't want to have to be 24 hours behind.
If the "one-piece-in-every-world" theory is true, you can safely go to Coltzan and the Fruit Machine, since we already had Pyramids in the Lost Desert world.
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:27 pm
Plagatus wrote:All of the worlds have something that is, or can be construed as, an HTML-game, except Kreludor. Perhaps that world is the extraneous one.
There's the Neocola machine...Not actually a game, but gameish.
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:28 pm
My abject apologies if this has been mentioned and I've missed it... does anyone have any idea what on earth (if anything) the other columns on the parchment are for?
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:29 pm
Got the forth piece!
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Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:30 pm
Yup that was already mentioned 
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:31 pm
maybe the 12th world isnt kreludor but jelly world or Roo Island 
Ok I'm going to start a guessing game here
On each world, which game will we have to play to get the next piece?
Roo Island (I'm going with that coz it has a non-flash game): Dice-a-roo
Meridell: Kiss the Mortog
Krawk Island: Buried Treasure
Tyrannia: Tyranu Evavu
Mystery Island: Island Mystic
Virtupets Space Station: Strange Lever
Haunted Woods: Haunted House
These are my guesses, anyone else got ideas?
EDIT: forgot Neopia Central: Wishing well, wish for a piece
Ok I'm going to start a guessing game here
On each world, which game will we have to play to get the next piece?
Roo Island (I'm going with that coz it has a non-flash game): Dice-a-roo
Meridell: Kiss the Mortog
Krawk Island: Buried Treasure
Tyrannia: Tyranu Evavu
Mystery Island: Island Mystic
Virtupets Space Station: Strange Lever
Haunted Woods: Haunted House
These are my guesses, anyone else got ideas?
EDIT: forgot Neopia Central: Wishing well, wish for a piece
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Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:31 pm
bgryph wrote:My abject apologies if this has been mentioned and I've missed it... does anyone have any idea what on earth (if anything) the other columns on the parchment are for?
Perhaps the other columns will mean something at a future point ... but I am guessing they are just there to make it a little harder to figure out which place to go ... instead of just spelling it out for us exactly.
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:37 pm
So can anyone tell me at what time the 4th clue came out? NST? I was gone!
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:38 pm
susannahmio wrote:So can anyone tell me at what time the 4th clue came out? NST? I was gone!
It came out only a short while ago. You didn't miss it by much. Check the previous board when we started talking it.
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:43 pm
susannahmio wrote:So can anyone tell me at what time the 4th clue came out? NST? I was gone!
1:30 pm NST
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:44 pm
XenaAndGabrielle wrote:susannahmio wrote:So can anyone tell me at what time the 4th clue came out? NST? I was gone!
It came out only a short while ago. You didn't miss it by much. Check the previous board when we started talking it.
ok so I worked it out. If the clues coming out every 6 hours is right, and it seems to be from what I can calculate from the last 3 clues, they come out at 1:30 am and pm and 7:30 am and pm NST.
Agree?
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:44 pm
Oo, got my third parchment now. You know, that's the first time I ever bet on Poogle Racing?
My third door is one I have to check for the statue anyway, so I can kill two birds with one stone, as it were.
My third door is one I have to check for the statue anyway, so I can kill two birds with one stone, as it were.
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:45 pm
I feel I'm more and more pressing my luck by not fully mapping out my temple map (I have 51 rooms accounted for.) So far my tablet peices have been in areas I've already mapped so thank goodess v_v
I just hope the fifth doesn't come out soon lol.
I just hope the fifth doesn't come out soon lol.
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:47 pm
My guesses for places to find parchment. Of course, these are just wild guesses ... but it was fun to think about places it *could* be.
There are 12 places listed on the explore map ... I don't think we will need to resort to jelly world/roo island/geraptiku, etc.
Kreludor: Neocola Machine
Tyrannia: Tyrana/Evavu
Meridell: Double or Nothing
Neopia Central: Money Tree
Haunted Woods: Deserted Fairgrounds Scrach Cards
Krawk Island: Bilge Dice
Mystery Island: The Beach
Space Station: Lever of Doom
There are 12 places listed on the explore map ... I don't think we will need to resort to jelly world/roo island/geraptiku, etc.
Kreludor: Neocola Machine
Tyrannia: Tyrana/Evavu
Meridell: Double or Nothing
Neopia Central: Money Tree
Haunted Woods: Deserted Fairgrounds Scrach Cards
Krawk Island: Bilge Dice
Mystery Island: The Beach
Space Station: Lever of Doom