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Lenny Conundrum #112

Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:07 pm

The key to this one is a year equaling 365.2425 days. I think o_O

ANSWER: 294,215,686,440,197,141,401 years
Although there is much fuss from people who claimed to have submitted just that and not winning.

Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:29 pm

That's the answer I came up with, but I didn't win this round. I didn't put comma's in my answer, nor did I put the word "years" in it. I don't see why comma's would be required, especially since TNT didn't specify it. And "years" was already implied in the question.... o_O

Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:32 pm

A few things on this LC.

One. I made a C program that calculated all the permutations one could have. This was the brute force method ... just taking N! / [ m! * (N-m)!] for m from 0 to 88....and summing them up (N is total spaces ... m is number of one color of piece ... N-m is the number of the other color of piece) Worked great when N was small.

I got rounding error as a result, and my answer was wrong, though ... when N got large. I was sad. :(

The clever way to think about it (and I can't take credit for this logic ... but it makes complete sense), is just taking 2^88 as the number of possible ways to set up the board. (which is what my formula will come up with without rounding errors on the computer) :)

The big problem will be how neopets defined a year. (In order to calculate the time from these number of possible board set ups)

365. 365.25? 365.2422? 52*7 = 364?

If they really wanted an answer to the nearest year ... you would have to know the number of days in a year to about 20 significant digits. If you found that conversion to 20 signifcant digits ... I'm proud of you.

(for 365 days in a year ... the answer would be
294411158505845765530)
(for 365.25 days in a year ... the answer would be
294209645050331839612)

(Notice how just that small change in days per year makes the 4th digit of the number change) :)

Re: Lenny Conundrum #112

Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:18 pm

stampsyne wrote:The key to this one is a year equaling 365.2425 days. I think o_O

ANSWER: 294,215,686,440,197,141,401 years
Although there is much fuss from people who claimed to have submitted just that and not winning.


NO CRAP.

I submitted that exact one, and I know because I have it as a text file. :x I didn't win.

Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:24 pm

The best number I have been able to find is:

365.2421896698 days in 1 year.

Astronomers all disagree as to an exact definition, anyway, it seems. It all depends on how you actually define the year.

With this "best" answer I can find ... I get as an answer ...

294215936422305995441

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:11 am

Did this week's puzzle close BEFORE it opened? :o

2 + 2 = 4
4 + 4 = 8
142 + 468 = 621
3762 + 8271 = ?

Looks like this round has already been judged!

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:13 am

e.e If this is a sick joke.... :x

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:13 am

I think they were lazy again, and they didn't have time to do an actual one. Even though they said they were going to make this weeks super hard.

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:14 am

Knives wrote:I think they were lazy again, and they didn't have time to do an actual one. Even though they said they were going to make this weeks super hard.


Well, it *is* super-hard.

Seeing as:

142 + 468 = 610

Not 621

O.O

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:15 am

Maybe when they released it, they were flooded with a million entries just adding the last two together?

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:16 am

watericesage wrote:Maybe when they released it, they were flooded with a million entries just adding the last two together?


-prays for that-

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:17 am

The current (112) was easy... anyway as I posted before I used 365.25 as the calculation... and not the 365.2425 :x

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:22 am

o_0 wrote:
watericesage wrote:Maybe when they released it, they were flooded with a million entries just adding the last two together?


-prays for that-


Heh heh, It'll be funny when TNT announce that NO ONE won the LC because of Newbies with access to a calculator that have no idea what kind of questions they ask in the LC.

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:37 am

lenny conundrum wrote:Round: 112

2 + 2 = 4
4 + 4 = 8
142 + 468 = 621
3762 + 8271 = ?

Answer: 294,215,686,440,197,141,401 years

Uh? the answer is that of last round? o_O

Anyhow, did anyone actually got to send an answer when it started? I didn't get to see a submit space.

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:41 am

o_0 wrote:
Knives wrote:I think they were lazy again, and they didn't have time to do an actual one. Even though they said they were going to make this weeks super hard.


Well, it *is* super-hard.

Seeing as:

142 + 468 = 610

Not 621

O.O


EDIT: never mind. 142 + 468 does equal 621. :)
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