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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:12 pm 
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The American government told someone about the earthquake coming... and about the tsunami, but only when it was created (it was about an hour and a half warning, which isn't much). But America had given plenty of warning about the earthquake. I guess they chose to ignore the warning, because predicting earthquakes isn't an exact science. America knew it would be huge, but the people that America told, didn't think it would be that big.

I think people were smiling and laughing, for the same reason when you smile and laugh when at a water park. The people in the picture obviously weren't aware of the danger that the wave could cause to them. The umbrella in the picture looks really funny.


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I feel sad about my friend, his mom's family came from NAD (Nanggro Aceh Darussalam), and about 15 of his' cousin missing from that earthquake and tsunami catastrophe. It causes him to not goto school for about 6 days or more. Thanks god I live in Jakarta, not Aceh. But still, I never forget the tragedy that causes almost 125,000 victims.

The one thing that make me confuse, is why our (Indonesia) government didn't told them to aware from the earthquake. Just because my country doesn't have tsunami's acquiescent tool, it doesn't mean we can't detect the earthquake, right?

// fyi, i'm from indonesia.


The earthquake was out at see, when a landmass due to movements of the earth's surface. Sometimes similas earthquakes happen but they do not result in Tsunamis. Therefore special equipment is needed to measure how much a part of the sea falls down (this time it dropped just one meter but had a diameter of some kilometers). These falldown cause massive movement in the water and tsumanis are created.

Now, think that was understandable? :P

Anyway, main point is that with just measuring the richter of the quake will never tell you for certain if it has created an approaching tsunami.

Further on, the Indonesian government and many others did not tell the public about the quake because of economic reasons. Which was foolish enough.


Well, atleast the government can decrease the victims by telling them to flee. Because the 8.9 richter of scale earthquake is enough already to kill so many peoples. And also from what I've heard is, if the earthquake already reach 6.0 richter of scale or more, it can make large tsunami, can't it?


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Well, atleast the government can decrease the victims by telling them to flee. Because the 8.9 richter of scale earthquake is enough already to kill so many peoples. And also from what I've heard is, if the earthquake already reach 6.0 richter of scale or more, it can make large tsunami, can't it?


Yes, he can decrease the chance of victims but it will cost millions upon millions of dollars to do that. As I said before, a large earthquake was going to hit somewhere in America. State panicked and evacuated everyone which cost millions and millions of dollars. The earthquake turned out to be very small and it did rarely any damage. So much for that.

I believe Indonesia, India etc... must've concluded the same situation would happen with them.


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Well, atleast the government can decrease the victims by telling them to flee. Because the 8.9 richter of scale earthquake is enough already to kill so many peoples. And also from what I've heard is, if the earthquake already reach 6.0 richter of scale or more, it can make large tsunami, can't it?


Yes, he can decrease the chance of victims but it will cost millions upon millions of dollars to do that. As I said before, a large earthquake was going to hit somewhere in America. State panicked and evacuated everyone which cost millions and millions of dollars. The earthquake turned out to be very small and it did rarely any damage. So much for that.

I believe Indonesia, India etc... must've concluded the same situation would happen with them.


I'd rather waste money than have people die.


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Well, atleast the government can decrease the victims by telling them to flee. Because the 8.9 richter of scale earthquake is enough already to kill so many peoples. And also from what I've heard is, if the earthquake already reach 6.0 richter of scale or more, it can make large tsunami, can't it?


Yes, he can decrease the chance of victims but it will cost millions upon millions of dollars to do that. As I said before, a large earthquake was going to hit somewhere in America. State panicked and evacuated everyone which cost millions and millions of dollars. The earthquake turned out to be very small and it did rarely any damage. So much for that.

I believe Indonesia, India etc... must've concluded the same situation would happen with them.


I'd rather waste money than have people die.


But you have to look at it from their point of view... "America is telling us an earthquake MIGHT happen. Waste tons of money getting people out of danger for something that MIGHT happen or leave it be and IF it happens take the blame..."

People usually don't listen to predictions :)


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Well, atleast the government can decrease the victims by telling them to flee. Because the 8.9 richter of scale earthquake is enough already to kill so many peoples. And also from what I've heard is, if the earthquake already reach 6.0 richter of scale or more, it can make large tsunami, can't it?


Yes, he can decrease the chance of victims but it will cost millions upon millions of dollars to do that. As I said before, a large earthquake was going to hit somewhere in America. State panicked and evacuated everyone which cost millions and millions of dollars. The earthquake turned out to be very small and it did rarely any damage. So much for that.

I believe Indonesia, India etc... must've concluded the same situation would happen with them.


I'd rather waste money than have people die.


Me too, but, Indonesia is one of corrupted state in the world. It took position number 4, and I don't think our president (Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono) will make decision like that, because of our economy class isn't as high as America has.

I agree with bawls_soda, but some peoples might reverse their thought and listen to prediction.


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Well, atleast the government can decrease the victims by telling them to flee. Because the 8.9 richter of scale earthquake is enough already to kill so many peoples. And also from what I've heard is, if the earthquake already reach 6.0 richter of scale or more, it can make large tsunami, can't it?


Yes, he can decrease the chance of victims but it will cost millions upon millions of dollars to do that. As I said before, a large earthquake was going to hit somewhere in America. State panicked and evacuated everyone which cost millions and millions of dollars. The earthquake turned out to be very small and it did rarely any damage. So much for that.

I believe Indonesia, India etc... must've concluded the same situation would happen with them.


I'd rather waste money than have people die.


But you have to look at it from their point of view... "America is telling us an earthquake MIGHT happen. Waste tons of money getting people out of danger for something that MIGHT happen or leave it be and IF it happens take the blame..."

People usually don't listen to predictions :)


You have to think about it from several aspects though (referring to most quotes above).

Yes, they did get warnings. And that should have been enough to at least try their best to alert the islands that were reachable more easily (economic problem there also, some islands are very hard to reach before the catastrophe). Thailand had almost no time at all to evacuate before the waves hit them, Sri Lanka on the other hand had three hours. Anyway, this is where the money kicks in. Tourism is way important to such countries, and not being aware of the coming Tsunami they simply didn't think it was worth it.

Al though I think it was wrong not to alert the people, I can understand that they were never expecting something this great. And yes, people don't take warnings seriously. Just look at the pictures of the people who stand and watch the huge waves approach. That would probably be what would happen if the government warned about possible killer waves approaching, and it has happened before. Hawaii for example, back in the mid 1900s there were records of total Tsunami catastrophes where people didn't take the warning they got seriously and went to the harbor instead to check out what was happening.


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Yes, he can decrease the chance of victims but it will cost millions upon millions of dollars to do that. As I said before, a large earthquake was going to hit somewhere in America. State panicked and evacuated everyone which cost millions and millions of dollars. The earthquake turned out to be very small and it did rarely any damage. So much for that.



Yeah I saw taht on the Discovery Channel Hawaii wated 30mill evacuating people and teh wave was only 8inches high.


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My aunt's friend was out there and he was working with his partner and his partner is lost, most likely dead. It is very sad. Oprah got marines to try and look for him. They couldn't find him. They found my aunts friend but not his partner


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The radio station I always listen to (94.5 The Buzz) did a tsunami relief request-a-thon yesterday (on Friday) and we (us Houstonians..is that a word?) raised over $150,000. It went on from 6 am till midnight and they made it onto several of the news broadcast. I also heard that they made it onto one of the Californian news broadcasts. The way we raised money was like this: It was $25 for a song the radio station usually plays, $50 for a rock song like Pink Floyd, $75 for a song that was like Berry Manilow(or something like that...) and $100 for a local band to get a song on there. It was awesome. One person donated $2,500 for just two songs. I know its not like a million dollars but every little bit helps right?


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This has been a very devistating disaster. This is why I don't get why have wars. Life is precious. The people there weren't even expecting the Tsunami, and just like that, thousands of lives were lost, families were seperated, houses were destroyed, and many injured. I hope people learn something from this and value life more. It's already bad enough we have natural disasters like this that takes away thousands of lives, we also have people who take lives for stupid things such as revenge, power, or to get a point across. Natural disasters cannot be avoided, but those kind of things can!

I hope this has made people cherish those around them and value their life instead of going "My life sucks, I wish I was dead" or "I wish he/she were dead" because you never know what could happen next... And I'm pretty sure there is someone out there less fortunate who would be satisfied to even have their life half as good as yours.

I had a friend from Thailand 2 years ago. I really hope he's safe. Even though we don't talk anymore after he left, I hope him and his family are safe.

I feel bad for not donating yet. My school was collecting money for it during out second class, but when I was getting my money from my bag, the person collecting the money left without even coming over to where I was sitting. When the chance comes along again, I will definately donate. It may not be much, but every little bit helps. I hope everyone will do the same.


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The three commerical television networks in Australia organized a huge concert last night and was televised on all three TV stations.

Many Australian singers/TV people donated their time. It was pretty good.

Anway.. the total donations came to... just over AU$15 million.

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6.something aftershock in Aceh, New Zealand upping aid to $100 million. American Black Hawk Helicopter crashes into crowed airport.


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The three commerical television networks in Australia organized a huge concert last night and was televised on all three TV stations.

Many Australian singers/TV people donated their time. It was pretty good.

Anway.. the total donations came to... just over AU$15 million.

Nice.

By midnight, it was up to $20 million. I watched the concert, I thought it was awesome. The hosts were hilarious, too. (Rove/Bert kiss, anyone?!)

I'm amazed by how much support has been given by the Australians - last time I heard, our personal donations had topped $150 million, though that was a few days ago. There was a charity match yesterday, which raised about $10 million (though I could be wrong - I wasn't listening properly).


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I'm amazed by how much support has been given by the Australians - last time I heard, our personal donations had topped $150 million, though that was a few days ago. There was a charity match yesterday, which raised about $10 million (though I could be wrong - I wasn't listening properly).


The cricket match raised about $14.6 million dollars on the night. They are selling all the shirts that the players wore, and the current going price for Shane Warne's is $140,000.


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