Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:36 am
*Posts so Yoshi's message will self-destruct* 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...
I still think Tonu is bad... c'mon. He neutralised Raze, or so he said! I'm going to go look in the last game for the role I think he sounds like.
EDIT: Found it! Nullifier. Last game... died day 5.
I still think Tonu is bad... c'mon. He neutralised Raze, or so he said! I'm going to go look in the last game for the role I think he sounds like.
EDIT: Found it! Nullifier. Last game... died day 5.
Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:54 am
Does anybody know what Raze can dream about exactly ?? If it shows their entire role then Tonu will be bad.
If it dreams for something specific then Tonu may be good.
Explained :
Tonu is using the fact that Raze and Xjox were neutralised by him to show his innocence. HOWEVER if he was actually innocent and Raze could dream of his role entirely then Raze would have seen that and known anyway. If Raze can dream of his role entirely then he'd need to make sure that Raze wouldn't see his role so he stopped her (him ?? *ish tired and can't be bothered checking*) from dreaming. That would "prove" his innocence and mean he wouldn't be dreamt about.
If Raze can only dream of say, Werewolfs, then he'd have been fine and wouldn't need to block it anyway...but still. An innocent wouldn't want to harm good innocent roles
Whether your hyper or not it's not a good idea to prevent dreamers from dreaming. If your an innocent then you wouldn't want to stop one of the most crucial roles of the game...Tonu seems evil to me.
And besides, he's annoying...let's kill him now before he drives me insane whenever I read the main thread trying to analyze things people have said...at least I can ignore things said in groupies if I want
LYNCH : TONU
If it dreams for something specific then Tonu may be good.
Explained :
Tonu is using the fact that Raze and Xjox were neutralised by him to show his innocence. HOWEVER if he was actually innocent and Raze could dream of his role entirely then Raze would have seen that and known anyway. If Raze can dream of his role entirely then he'd need to make sure that Raze wouldn't see his role so he stopped her (him ?? *ish tired and can't be bothered checking*) from dreaming. That would "prove" his innocence and mean he wouldn't be dreamt about.
If Raze can only dream of say, Werewolfs, then he'd have been fine and wouldn't need to block it anyway...but still. An innocent wouldn't want to harm good innocent roles
Whether your hyper or not it's not a good idea to prevent dreamers from dreaming. If your an innocent then you wouldn't want to stop one of the most crucial roles of the game...Tonu seems evil to me.
And besides, he's annoying...let's kill him now before he drives me insane whenever I read the main thread trying to analyze things people have said...at least I can ignore things said in groupies if I want
LYNCH : TONU
Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:15 am
Sorry but Im not going to soulsteal with you guys. I really believe that unot is innocent, he was one of the people who I told my role too just before I died and he had no reason to lie about his role.
My other reason for not soul stealing is that there are only 11 people left in the game, it is entirely possible that 5 of them are evil, therefore, if we soul steal an innocent then thats it game over.
My other reason for not soul stealing is that there are only 11 people left in the game, it is entirely possible that 5 of them are evil, therefore, if we soul steal an innocent then thats it game over.
Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:59 am
I believe there was a neutralizer before game 4, I may be wrong, but it don't think Tonu is lying.
EDIT: Nah, there wasn't. Well, there's got to be more baddies on the B side, so who are our choices, Unot and Lass? Unot I don't know about, and Lass, I think even less people know about. It would be logical not to have three full baddie teams on one side wouldn't it? Gundam had to be protecting someone didn't she, if that's what her role was?
What about Sock? It's like she's been all but forgotten.
Well xjox, it's not game over until there's only one baddie team left, but I agree, we hit an innocent and it isn't good. Anyway I'm sure the game has a pretty good diea of who is bad and who is not so I'll leave it to them.
EDIT: Nah, there wasn't. Well, there's got to be more baddies on the B side, so who are our choices, Unot and Lass? Unot I don't know about, and Lass, I think even less people know about. It would be logical not to have three full baddie teams on one side wouldn't it? Gundam had to be protecting someone didn't she, if that's what her role was?
What about Sock? It's like she's been all but forgotten.
Well xjox, it's not game over until there's only one baddie team left, but I agree, we hit an innocent and it isn't good. Anyway I'm sure the game has a pretty good diea of who is bad and who is not so I'll leave it to them.
Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:50 pm
Ah, I see now, I thought that all the baddies had to do to win was to get the innocents down to the same number as all the baddies combined, but its the same number as the baddies in their team, right?
Wow its definately boring in there right now though, they got rid of all the talkative people and now no one is doing anything! Its all the inactive suspicious people left!!
Wow its definately boring in there right now though, they got rid of all the talkative people and now no one is doing anything! Its all the inactive suspicious people left!!
Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:03 pm
Yup, this usually happens at the end of the games. Most of the people that talk at all are killed off sooner rather than later. 
Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:47 pm
Yes, well I'm soulstealing Unot or whatever.
Soul Steal: Unot
Soul Steal: Unot
Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:30 pm
About the Neutralizer/Nullifier thing, Scott has changed aspects of different roles before. Remember the fruit vendor business?
Anyway, I have other reason to believe Unot on this, but because it is based on PMs, I can't discuss it here.
I think the only possibility was if he was corrupted, but that would be pointless because he would just be a Nullifier. Unless he was converted, then possibly, but I doubt it.
I won't waste a Soul Steal on someone that I believe is good, even if he's doing strange things that don't help us. Sorry, if we get this soul steal wrong, we're done.
Even if he is bad, all he can do is stop Raze's dreaming more and if he did that, Raze would just announce it and we'd have ourselves a baddie.
Anyway, I have other reason to believe Unot on this, but because it is based on PMs, I can't discuss it here.
I think the only possibility was if he was corrupted, but that would be pointless because he would just be a Nullifier. Unless he was converted, then possibly, but I doubt it.
I won't waste a Soul Steal on someone that I believe is good, even if he's doing strange things that don't help us.
Sorry, if we get this soul steal wrong, we're done.
Even if he is bad, all he can do is stop Raze's dreaming more and if he did that, Raze would just announce it and we'd have ourselves a baddie.
Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:53 pm
Might as well kill someone else. oh, but the left shift key is so much harder to use.
soul steal: unoT
oh, but the left shift key is so much harder to use.
soul steal: unoT
Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:58 pm
xjox wrote:My other reason for not soul stealing is that there are only 11 people left in the game, it is entirely possible that 5 of them are evil, therefore, if we soul steal an innocent then thats it game over.
well... last game the deadies soul stole at the last 3 people... granted they knew the person was bad...
my mom just came in here, and had been telling her about werewolf, but she'd never seen ppt, so she asked what it was, and I told her it was werewolf, then she was like, where's the game?
Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:59 pm
Qanda wrote:But why in the first place would you want us to think you are a werewolf when you are not one?! Mad That is hardly a valid reason for incapacitating Raze, who is probably our only dreamer left and would be a great help at this stage of the game! Mad
Personally I dont think that Raze is the only dreamer in the game. When Raze died Scott didnt say that she was the last one and I believe from reading old games that he says when all of them are dead. Plus someone else told me that they are a dreamer (they couldve been lying) but worth thinking about!
Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:09 pm
See? Can you really say no to that? ...don't answer that.
Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:43 pm
xjox wrote:Qanda wrote:But why in the first place would you want us to think you are a werewolf when you are not one?! Mad That is hardly a valid reason for incapacitating Raze, who is probably our only dreamer left and would be a great help at this stage of the game! Mad
Personally I dont think that Raze is the only dreamer in the game. When Raze died Scott didnt say that she was the last one and I believe from reading old games that he says when all of them are dead. Plus someone else told me that they are a dreamer (they couldve been lying) but worth thinking about!
Scott said there wouldn't be hints from him so don't read into it.
Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:51 pm
Scott usually does tell whether or not all of the "dreamers" have been killed or not, however, he won't give clues to what a person's role may be.
Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:24 pm
C'mon guys you need 4 more votes to lock one of them and only 1 more vote for the other one to get a double execution. Start pm'ing people if you have to!!